The way y’all distort and twist arguments is amazing

I’ve told you three times now the original argument was about artists who are bigger outside of the US than they are inside of it

Were Bad Bunny first day Spotify numbers amazing?

I don't disagree with 500k being unrealistic but last year was his breakout year in the US, agreed? Whenever that happens for an artist, don't we usually have high expectations for whatever album they release next?

Feel like he’s trolling with that last response but I’m still talking bout non-US numbers

Biggest first day streams of the year, 146 Million, same numbers as Un Verano

I don't care what the original argument was. I pointed you to two people who said The Weeknd was bigger than Drake globally. You said they only meant outside the US. I'm just letting you know that they didn't mean that, they meant including the US.

Yes, so I said I was expecting somewhere between 300K-350K. I think it being Latin trap rather than Reggaeton will hurt it a little bit.

Would that range be a flop to you?

Yeah, they were. Identical to what his last album did.

Fair, that’s not what my stance is though. If you include the US, Drake is clearly the bigger act

The Weeknd's streaming stats show otherwise

He isn't. He's been posting whatever he can to backup his argument lmao.

That last sentence just ain’t true whatsoever man lmao

Everytime he performs a deep cut on stage the crowd goes crazy

It wouldn't but I think at this point, he isn't making any style of music he hasn't made before or his fanbase isn't aware of so my expectation is that this album performs better or at least as well as Un Verano Sin Ti did. 300-350k wouldn't be a flop because that's bigger than the debut of his last album.

Well, you're saying that and I don't disagree. I was just pointing out that other people speaking of global numbers were also including the US in that.

And drakes stats show twice as much. That’s why he got double digit albums on the 200. Let alone other indicators.

I mean yeah fans of his at concerts sure. But not generally. And even then I’d need examples of what songs you’re talking about.

Just so we're clear, The Weeknd is clearly a superstar in his own right with monster smash hits, both in the US and globally. My only argument is that Drake's music is bigger globally. Doesn't mean Abel is automatically a small artist or lesser.

the two best songs of the flop album Yawn FM. love to see it

neither of them are singles, just album tracks

What do you mean generally? Casual fans?

What casual Drake fan is bumping deep cuts? Only hardcore fans or more-than-casual fans are playing an artist’s deep cuts

But is Drake bigger than weaknd outside the US

It’s been very stable on streaming over time, it just didn’t have a great first week

The Weeknd’s back catalogue is what’s making him such a streaming force right now. Extremely ignorant to say his back catalogue gets ignored

We bout to start arguing all over again

Ironically enough, the love his back catalogue gets on streaming was one of the things people clowned him for earlier in the year and last year lmao