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TheFaderI think we ALL forget sometimes that monoculture is dead and popularity is a lot more splintered and niche these days.
Just because YOU don’t believe that 50K Lil Baby fans bought digital copies of an album, that doesn’t mean that it actually didn’t happen.
The nigga fills up arenas across the country. 50K sales is not a stretch of the imagination.
I don’t listen to Rod Wave a day in my life but that nigga has an actual audience that shows up every time he drops an album or has a tour date. I’m not just gonna call conspiracy if he dropped a digital album and it moved 100K units simply because I don’t engage in his niche.
None of these artists sell these numbers with CDs, Vinyls, or songs on iTunes.
If he has 50,000 fans who are passionate enough to buy a digital album for ONE song then why do they conveniently not buy his physicals or buy any of his singles on iTunes?….
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The fans are in tune with the gimmicks as well and want to directly do their part to ensure that their fav’s numbers are solid. Stans absolutely will show up to buy a digital album in bulk for reasons like that.
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Like the whole POINT of these new rules are because even Billboard was aware these sales were fraudulent as f*** so why are you bothering playing contrarian
- TheFader
The fans are in tune with the gimmicks as well and want to directly do their part to ensure that their fav’s numbers are solid. Stans absolutely will show up to buy a digital album in bulk for reasons like that.
Right so Billboard just changed the rules for no reason
- ·1 replyiHype
None of these artists sell these numbers with CDs, Vinyls, or songs on iTunes.
If he has 50,000 fans who are passionate enough to buy a digital album for ONE song then why do they conveniently not buy his physicals or buy any of his singles on iTunes?….
They’re less incentivized to buy a digital album on iTunes that’s the exact same thing as the streaming version.
The digital deluxe D2C trend has always been about exclusive bonus tracks, because it directly gives the consumer a reason to purchase one
- DarkLore
Yall think Labels will still find a loophole through this?
There will always be a loophole someway or another
- iHype
Like the whole POINT of these new rules are because even Billboard was aware these sales were fraudulent as f*** so why are you bothering playing contrarian
“Fraudulent” in the sense that they’re gimmicky and abused, not that all of them are botted and fake.
Fake streams exist too and streaming services crack down on them.
With anything on the internet, there will be always some level of botting going on, that’s not the primary issue
·2 repliesTheFaderI think we ALL forget sometimes that monoculture is dead and popularity is a lot more splintered and niche these days.
Just because YOU don’t believe that 50K Lil Baby fans bought digital copies of an album, that doesn’t mean that it actually didn’t happen.
The nigga fills up arenas across the country. 50K sales is not a stretch of the imagination.
I don’t listen to Rod Wave a day in my life but that nigga has an actual audience that shows up every time he drops an album or has a tour date. I’m not just gonna call conspiracy if he dropped a digital album and it moved 100K units simply because I don’t engage in his niche.
it is very odd considering it’s only me only had 6.5k pure sales first week and that was a much more anticipated album that had over 200 million streams first week. idk how a digital deluxe with only one additional song gets him 50k sales
- ·1 replyTheFader
They’re less incentivized to buy a digital album on iTunes that’s the exact same thing as the streaming version.
The digital deluxe D2C trend has always been about exclusive bonus tracks, because it directly gives the consumer a reason to purchase one
Billboard changed the rules because D2C was a way to cook fake numbers lmao.
Like why are you pretending us calling out fraudulence is “yall being bitter at artists you don’t like” when Billboard themselves literally confirmed the numbers have been suspicious and need more auditing
- Shabazz999
it is very odd considering it’s only me only had 6.5k pure sales first week and that was a much more anticipated album that had over 200 million streams first week. idk how a digital deluxe with only one additional song gets him 50k sales
Because it incentivizes the consumer to purchase
·2 repliesiHypeNone of these artists sell these numbers with CDs, Vinyls, or songs on iTunes.
If he has 50,000 fans who are passionate enough to buy a digital album for ONE song then why do they conveniently not buy his physicals or buy any of his singles on iTunes?….
I 100% bet no one was thinking about lil baby when they made the rule change.
- iHype
Billboard changed the rules because D2C was a way to cook fake numbers lmao.
Like why are you pretending us calling out fraudulence is “yall being bitter at artists you don’t like” when Billboard themselves literally confirmed the numbers have been suspicious and need more auditing
If their main goal was rooting out fake engagement, then streaming numbers would be slashed in half.
- Mafia Boss
I 100% bet no one was thinking about lil baby when they made the rule change.
@iHype cannot understand that culture exists outside of the bubble in which he has created for himself
- ·1 replyMafia Boss
I 100% bet no one was thinking about lil baby when they made the rule change.
Actually I think he played a very notable part because he blocked Bad Bunny due to the fake sales.
Similarly to when Kenny Chesney blocking Drake was a major role in eliminating tour bundles
Teams & labels make big fusses about this stuff behind closed doors
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It kills me that some of y’all are naive enough to think that the labels are only faking pure sales but not streams as well, when streams are quite literally the easiest thing to fake
- TheFader
The fans are in tune with the gimmicks as well and want to directly do their part to ensure that their fav’s numbers are solid. Stans absolutely will show up to buy a digital album in bulk for reasons like that.
They completely got rid of single sales on artists websites. They should just do the same for albums.
yungcartierFrom a collab with PND lmao
It’s not like he dropped a solo project
Kendrick had the most hype out of the two and only sold 100k more than his last album
He should’ve done DAMN numbers with the amount of hype around him post-beef
300k the new 600k in todays era rn
·1 replycrazy that it's only me only sold 6.5k digital sales.
i guess all those lil baby stans were keeping their wallets closed until he gave them what they wanted: a deluxe album with one new song.
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Big DogLMFAO
Did he expect this to count as an album sale? 😭
- ·1 replyTheFader
It kills me that some of y’all are naive enough to think that the labels are only faking pure sales but not streams as well, when streams are quite literally the easiest thing to fake
You should just stop talking.
Sales are much easier to fake hence BTS, K-Pop, Travis, and all these other ones who have gotten fake #1s by abusing sales.
Abusing streams requires much more people, resources, and planning
- Shabazz999
it is very odd considering it’s only me only had 6.5k pure sales first week and that was a much more anticipated album that had over 200 million streams first week. idk how a digital deluxe with only one additional song gets him 50k sales
It was 4 songs
·1 replyThe freefall is insane
Die Not expect that- Midzy
Did he expect this to count as an album sale? 😭
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Billboard: We are making new rules because there has without a doubt been fishy sales numbers
Fader: “and how do yall know these sales are suspicious?? Y’all swear everything is fake”
Literally never seen someone so unable to read a room
- ·1 replyiHype
Actually I think he played a very notable part because he blocked Bad Bunny due to the fake sales.
Similarly to when Kenny Chesney blocking Drake was a major role in eliminating tour bundles
Teams & labels make big fusses about this stuff behind closed doors
They filter sales though from people who buy multiple times. They also spy on discord and filter sales. So idk how lil baby sales would be faked unless they just target certain people.
