Yeah, it feels fake because most people aren't huge fans of her stuff and her label went from not pushing her stuff at all to viciously shoving her down our throats. That's why people are being like "woah, wait. This is all very sudden."

For someone like Megan, she had a pretty steady mainstream rise from 2018 till 2020 and then she started getting pushed hard. Same with Cardi B. We saw her drop her mixtapes and we saw the organic success of Bodak Yellow before she started getting pushed hard. We saw Doja drop her EP back in 2014, go viral with the Moo song, drop her debut album and score some minor hits with that all before she dropped Hot Pink and before Say So organically rose to become a hit before she got the major push with her Planet Her era.

With Doechii, she dropped a project that debuted with 11k units and then she started getting shoved down people's throats so it all feels so sudden.

Thats what I'm saying

Her fanbase makes her looking WAY bigger than she actually is. She's still the biggest artist easily tho but her numbers are obviously inflated

Of The Tortured Poets Department’s first-week unit sum of 2.61 million, album sales comprise 1.914 million (a number bolstered by its availability across more than 20 different iterations of the album), SEA units comprise 683,000 (equaling 891.37 million on-demand official streams of the set’s 31 songs, on its deluxe edition) and TEA units comprise 14,000. (All figures are rounded.)

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Music was progressing faster then cause ppl attention spans were faster and consumption was set up different (you couldn’t just have access to every song from 20 years ago).

Now everyone is stuck in their childhood days, to the point even Taco Bell & every other damn corporation sell nostalgic s***. Reboots of every TV show and movie imaginable.

Just in general culture has become very nostalgic and things people “got used to” stick around way longer.

Not necessarily, the past generations didn’t have the luxury of Social Media, easily accessible music, or major brand deals.
Today you can become famous by going viral and build a fan base off that or create hype off a single IG post.

they haven’t increased the weight of streaming since the first trump term its ridiculous

Artist these days have f***in fan accounts all over social media

Yes you’re right I confused the numbers.

(Kr0niic you’re somehow wrong)

Artists had fan accounts all over the internet in the 2000s too.

I’m saying longevity in the past was harder which in a way made it more impressive.

I’m always right

Product is good at the end of the day

But comparing those MySpace accounts or blog accounts to a social media dominated era is way off

one of the only major 2010s artists i can think of who the culture actually moved on from was uzi, and that's entirely because his music became garbage. if he was still good, i have little doubt he'd be on year #9 of being the king of the youth just like travis and carti.

who else? i guess we moved on from lil nas X pretty quickly.

over/under 600 million US streams for morgan wallen’s debut? his last album did just under 500 million and he’s only gotten bigger since

I think the youth is moving on faster from new songs but thats another topic

It's just the millennials are being stuck in their childhood days but the youth doesn't care about our 00s and 10s songs that much like you think they do

Not trying to hate on Kendrick but my brother doesn't care about GKMC at all because he was too young when it came out. He also doesn't care about CD and LR from Kanye. He also doesn't care about Take Care and NWTS.

Like you already said, consumption was very different in the 90s and 00s. I don't think people moved on faster since people listened to CDs for years. We will just never know it because now it's better documented today through streaming services.

Example: Iris from The Goo Goo Dolls is currently getting 2.3 million streams on Spotify. This song is from 1998. We would never know that this song is still so popular without streaming services

Over

There’s far more artists from the 2010s era that having big numbers 10+ years later than any other prior era.

That’s just facts.

The good thing is, there’s nothing ideally wrong with the public being more warmer to artist as they get older and sticking around with them longer.

But also it was just more harder to and therefore more rare to have a run past 10 years compared to today

Beautiful morning gave him 2 weeks cuz he don't like the idea of lifetime ban bets

Put a lot of stock into that 30 track streaming special

Come on, there are so many rap artists now being irrelevant (doing no numbers anymore) lol

You think people still care about French Montana? Swae Lee? G-Eazy? Wiz Khalifa? DaBaby? I could even name more artists

All artists with multiple hits in the 10s but they're not moving anything anymore and probably will never have a hit again.

Yeah I’m not arguing that but comparing the 2 eras is crazy when you look at the advantages those 2 eras had

I’m agreeing with you and saying it was harder and more rare to do it then?

Yeah lol we on the same page then. It was harder to do back then

We not saying it’s impossible to have a fall off. It’s just WAY more artists that are having late career success these days

Also you listing niggas who was C-list rappers during their prime.

It’s very much harder for someone to have a huge fall off once they reach superstar A-list status these days is what we are discussing.

We saw 50 Cent go from the biggest rapper in the world to being a complete has been in 5 years. S*** is basically unthinkable today.

Future can release 7 albums a year and even that nigga still doing 100k+ each time.