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SyIIabIesYeah lol we on the same page then. It was harder to do back then
It was harder to do it back then because people bought a CD and listened to it for years. Most people never cared about artists dropping more projects after they had their fav CD
Eminem was a phenomenon at that time because people legitimately cared about him even after his first 2 projects. S*** like that happened barely at that time
Basically it's similar today. We have the artists everybody is going back to and then we have artists who have their moments with 1-2 projects and after that people don't care anymore unless they have another huge hit
Wiz Khalifa and C-list rapper lmao
If he was a C-list rapper then Uzi was a C-list rapper too
- mov
It was harder to do it back then because people bought a CD and listened to it for years. Most people never cared about artists dropping more projects after they had their fav CD
Eminem was a phenomenon at that time because people legitimately cared about him even after his first 2 projects. S*** like that happened barely at that time
Basically it's similar today. We have the artists everybody is going back to and then we have artists who have their moments with 1-2 projects and after that people don't care anymore unless they have another huge hit
That’s what I was saying, social media, all the music listening platforms compared to back then. Of course it’s easier today
thegreatdivineIt has *42 songs actually.
OG SOS had 23 songs.
Lana (SOS Deluxe) dropped with 15 new songs then had 4 extra songs added to it. They all count as the same album on the Billboard 200 so that's 42 songs.
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SwellAt some point maybe this year pg langs focus should be baby keems sophmore
Keem has so much potential. I’m not sure what’s the hold up with his music. Pushing 4 years for a sophomore album, just doesn’t make sense. I’m thinking it his decision.
·2 repliesi guessed 350k so 302k is HUGE
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Keem has so much potential. I’m not sure what’s the hold up with his music. Pushing 4 years for a sophomore album, just doesn’t make sense. I’m thinking it his decision.
Album would have been out if it wasn’t for the beef imo
- HURRY UP HOOLIGAN
Keem has so much potential. I’m not sure what’s the hold up with his music. Pushing 4 years for a sophomore album, just doesn’t make sense. I’m thinking it his decision.
Kendrick needs time to write songs for it.
- Valentine
i guessed 350k so 302k is HUGE
with no physicals thats crazy
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vagabondsalbum equivalent units never made sense to me
we should just count the amount of streams first week and then any pure sales are a separate number
Facts I’ve been saying this for years. Streams and sales are two separate metrics and should be tracked as such. Converting streams into sales units never made sense and never will make any sense.
Even in the film and TV world they don’t do that. When a new film or show drops on streaming, they just report how many viewers or minutes watched it received, they don’t try converting the s*** into box office figures
·3 repliesValentinei guessed 350k so 302k is HUGE
Sold like chromakopia with the most chaotic rollout. I'm interested in that 2nd week tho
- mov
Come on, there are so many rap artists now being irrelevant (doing no numbers anymore) lol
You think people still care about French Montana? Swae Lee? G-Eazy? Wiz Khalifa? DaBaby? I could even name more artists
All artists with multiple hits in the 10s but they're not moving anything anymore and probably will never have a hit again.
Idk why people are acting like there are no 2010s rappers that fell off and like all the 2000s rappers became irrelevant ten years into their career.
Jay Z was still extremely relevant musically 20 years in
Eminem is still relevant
Kanye was still relevant
Wayne was still relevant
Etc.
The guys that fell off fell off because the music became trash or people moved on from their niche
- CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN
Sold like chromakopia with the most chaotic rollout. I'm interested in that 2nd week tho
Not really. Chromakopia only did about 150K in streaming units, the rest was physicals
- CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN
Sold like chromakopia with the most chaotic rollout. I'm interested in that 2nd week tho
Chromokoppia dropped on a Monday or Tuesday also
·1 replyTheFaderFacts I’ve been saying this for years. Streams and sales are two separate metrics and should be tracked as such. Converting streams into sales units never made sense and never will make any sense.
Even in the film and TV world they don’t do that. When a new film or show drops on streaming, they just report how many viewers or minutes watched it received, they don’t try converting the s*** into box office figures
For TV/movies, when they go on streaming services it is via a licensing agreement/contract. Studios aren't paid per steam like artists/labels are.
They can't do an equivalent to box office ticket purchases like you can for x amount of streams equaling an album purchase.
Currently both number of streams and equivalent album units are reported. Why would you want to have less data?
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For TV/movies, when they go on streaming services it is via a licensing agreement/contract. Studios aren't paid per steam like artists/labels are.
They can't do an equivalent to box office ticket purchases like you can for x amount of streams equaling an album purchase.
Currently both number of streams and equivalent album units are reported. Why would you want to have less data?
They easily could because it is literally a made up metric.
1500 streams = one sale is completely made up and non-real
I’m not saying we should have less data. I’m saying we should have the same data reported separately. Streams should be streams and sales should be sales. There should be no such thing as “streaming equivalent units”. It’s fugazi. Especially when one person can’t even stream an album enough times in its opening week to give it one single sale.
- thegreatdivine
It has *42 songs actually.
OG SOS had 23 songs.
Lana (SOS Deluxe) dropped with 15 new songs then had 4 extra songs added to it. They all count as the same album on the Billboard 200 so that's 42 songs.TDE so shameless
- CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN
Sold like chromakopia with the most chaotic rollout. I'm interested in that 2nd week tho
digital album version 4-10 incoming
- TheFader
They easily could because it is literally a made up metric.
1500 streams = one sale is completely made up and non-real
I’m not saying we should have less data. I’m saying we should have the same data reported separately. Streams should be streams and sales should be sales. There should be no such thing as “streaming equivalent units”. It’s fugazi. Especially when one person can’t even stream an album enough times in its opening week to give it one single sale.
It gets even more fragmented when you factor in that free and paid streams aren't even weighted the same, yet the streaming contribution of one person still can't add up to a sale (and shouldn't) because streams and sales require different levels of monetary commitment.
But then a lot of popular artists don't even offer physicals anymore, at least not first week, so attempting to make a reasonable stream to sale ratio that lives up to the heyday of soundscan is impossible.
Billboard data pre and post streaming is completely different, and I don't like comparing data across eras because it doesn't meaningfully reflect changes in buying and listening habits, as hard as they try.
Shabazz999over/under 600 million US streams for morgan wallen’s debut? his last album did just under 500 million and he’s only gotten bigger since
Under
- TheFader
They easily could because it is literally a made up metric.
1500 streams = one sale is completely made up and non-real
I’m not saying we should have less data. I’m saying we should have the same data reported separately. Streams should be streams and sales should be sales. There should be no such thing as “streaming equivalent units”. It’s fugazi. Especially when one person can’t even stream an album enough times in its opening week to give it one single sale.
yup
