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  • May 20, 2025
    thegreatdivine

    Let them keep exposing themselves for having no social lives outside this site lol. Outside of the song ravaging social media platforms like TikTok and Instagram, the song has been inescapable in every DJ playlist since it dropped and it's not even summer yet.

    Hell, even songs like Somebody Loves Me are inescapable everywhere I go and that song is even as big as NOKIA is.

    "inescapable in every DJ playlist"

  • May 20, 2025
    Bofa

    “But but but Drake 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺”

    Divine brought up Drake and Rihanna

  • May 20, 2025
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    Midzy

    She had a Top 10 with Maroon 5 in 2017...

    All the Stars was SZA’s first Top 10 song as a lead artist, and it also received both Academy Award and Grammy Award nominations. That song was her first mainstream breakthrough single

  • May 20, 2025

    My biggest L in life is thinking I can reasonably discuss soulful music with cacs

  • May 20, 2025

    Work is Drake’s 4th highest streamed song on Spotify

    Yet it’s Rihanna’s 9th

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    TheFader

    All the Stars was SZA’s first Top 10 song as a lead artist, and it also received both Academy Award and Grammy Award nominations. That song was her first mainstream breakthrough single

    Bring those goalposts back. You never mentioned "lead artist"

    You just said Rihanna gave Drake his first two #1 records. (he's a featured act)

    So Maroon 5 did in-fact give SZA her first mainstream record. (she's a featured act)

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    Midzy

    Bring those goalposts back. You never mentioned "lead artist"

    You just said Rihanna gave Drake his first two #1 records. (he's a featured act)

    So Maroon 5 did in-fact give SZA her first mainstream record. (she's a featured act)

    I didn’t move any goalpost.

    Rihanna gave Drake his first two #1 records -> fact. No debate.

    Kendrick gave SZA her first HUGE mainstream record -> “huge” is a subjective term, but by every identifiable measure, All the Stars is a much more successful song than What Lovers Do.

    More streams, more awards, lasted longer and peaked higher on Billboard, finished higher on Billboard’s Year-End Lists, etc. I never said it was her first Top 10 record. I said it was her first HUGE mainstream record. Huge is a subjective term, but the data we have to compare these two songs backs up the claim

  • foogo 🧊
    May 20, 2025

    drake putting 50 songs on his next album s***s selling 900k first week

  • foogo 🧊
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    @midzy @fader you guys both being dishonest with eachother rn

    talking about #1 songs and "mainstream record", pick the same stat and argue it dont argue two different things especially where one is incredibly subjective

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    foogo

    @midzy @fader you guys both being dishonest with eachother rn

    talking about #1 songs and "mainstream record", pick the same stat and argue it dont argue two different things especially where one is incredibly subjective

    I was comparing how Rihanna helped Drake in his career and how SZA helped Kendrick.

    Rihanna contributed to Drake’s early pop commercial success both before his major ascent (October 2010) and during it (January 2016).

    Whereas Kendrick has been working with SZA since she was an unknown act (2014), and he himself was already well established and certified before she broke through into the mainstream (his most successful album released two months before SZA’s debut album did).

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    TheFader
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    I was comparing how Rihanna helped Drake in his career and how SZA helped Kendrick.

    Rihanna contributed to Drake’s early pop commercial success both before his major ascent (October 2010) and during it (January 2016).

    Whereas Kendrick has been working with SZA since she was an unknown act (2014), and he himself was already well established and certified before she broke through into the mainstream (his most successful album released two months before SZA’s debut album did).

    yeah im ngl i wasnt going to read the entire thing i just saw the last two messages and yall talking about how one person got a #1 and the other person got "mainstream" so just wanted to call it out yknow

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    TheFader

    I didn’t move any goalpost.

    Rihanna gave Drake his first two #1 records -> fact. No debate.

    Kendrick gave SZA her first HUGE mainstream record -> “huge” is a subjective term, but by every identifiable measure, All the Stars is a much more successful song than What Lovers Do.

    More streams, more awards, lasted longer and peaked higher on Billboard, finished higher on Billboard’s Year-End Lists, etc. I never said it was her first Top 10 record. I said it was her first HUGE mainstream record. Huge is a subjective term, but the data we have to compare these two songs backs up the claim

    Thanks for ditching the whole "lead artist" angle you tried bc you simply forgot that the Maroon 5 song with SZA even existed.

    ATS was bigger, but the Maroon 5 was her first huge mainstream record.

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    Midzy

    Thanks for ditching the whole "lead artist" angle you tried bc you simply forgot that the Maroon 5 song with SZA even existed.

    ATS was bigger, but the Maroon 5 was her first huge mainstream record.

    I didn’t forget it existed

    Like I said, huge is subjective. Most people would agree that All the Stars was the huge breakthrough for SZA, not a Maroon 5 single that most people aren’t even listening to anymore

  • May 20, 2025

    This has to be the first time this entire decade that What Lovers Do by Maroon 5 was even mentioned on this website

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    TheFader

    I didn’t forget it existed

    Like I said, huge is subjective. Most people would agree that All the Stars was the huge breakthrough for SZA, not a Maroon 5 single that most people aren’t even listening to anymore

    400k daily streams

    More than Work and What's My Name

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    Midzy

    400k daily streams

    More than Work and What's My Name

    Compared to… oh yeah, about 2.1M daily streams for All the Stars. Thanks for playing!

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    TheFader

    Compared to… oh yeah, about 2.1M daily streams for All the Stars. Thanks for playing!

    not a Maroon 5 single that most people aren’t even listening to anymore

    Ik you're dumb already but lol I already said ATS is bigger plus the resurgence due to the Superbowl and the tour

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    Midzy

    not a Maroon 5 single that most people aren’t even listening to anymore

    Ik you're dumb already but lol I already said ATS is bigger plus the resurgence due to the Superbowl and the tour

    Okay, so if you’re saying it’s bigger, then you’re acknowledging the fact that “huge” is a subjective term open to interpretation.

    You might believe What Lovers Do was SZA’s first huge mainstream breakthrough, but most people would say that it was All the Stars, and all of the data we have available to compare the two songs points to it being All the Stars.

    Even back when the songs came out: What Lovers Do took 7 months to reach 2x Platinum, All the Stars took 4 months. All the Stars is currently Diamond-eligible, and we don’t know for sure yet but I would make an educated guess that What Lovers Do is not

  • May 20, 2025
    Midzy

    That's not what you said lol.

    Tell me more about how Kenny is "opening doors for SZA in Europe" when they both book the same sized venues for their solo tours and SOS is currently sitting #19 in the UK while GNX is #98

  • May 20, 2025
    hoopsplayer21

    he performed well yea, he always does in my experience. it’s beyond* just rapping all your songs with no backing track for me tho. showmanship goes beyond that stuff is all im saying

    Fair enough, I guess.

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    Midzy

    Didn't CTRL drop before All The Stars

    Let them run with their narratives. CTRL didn't have any chart-topping hits but still ended up being one of the bestselling female albums of the last 10 years.

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    TheFader

    Okay, so if you’re saying it’s bigger, then you’re acknowledging the fact that “huge” is a subjective term open to interpretation.

    You might believe What Lovers Do was SZA’s first huge mainstream breakthrough, but most people would say that it was All the Stars, and all of the data we have available to compare the two songs points to it being All the Stars.

    Even back when the songs came out: What Lovers Do took 7 months to reach 2x Platinum, All the Stars took 4 months. All the Stars is currently Diamond-eligible, and we don’t know for sure yet but I would make an educated guess that What Lovers Do is not

    The data says the Maroon 5 song came first

    Her first top 10

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    Midzy

    The data says the Maroon 5 song came first

    Her first top 10

    I never said anything about first Top 10

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    thegreatdivine

    Let them run with their narratives. CTRL didn't have any chart-topping hits but still ended up being one of the bestselling female albums of the last 10 years.

    This doesn’t disprove All the Stars being her breakthrough into the mainstream.

  • May 20, 2025
    TheFader

    This doesn’t disprove All the Stars being her breakthrough into the mainstream.

    and a year AFTER Ctrl came out, SZA opened up for Kendrick on Championship Tour. All The Stars was already out and being performed as part of the setlist.

    Most Kendrick fans are huge SZA fans, some clowns here dont care about SZA whatsoever. They just using SZA to downplay Kendrick

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