Why be so obtuse lmfao

It’s not really that complicated. Originally the US courted Israel for solely political reasons to throw off regional political imbalances they felt threatened western hegemony.
As lobbying became more of a concrete vehicle in US politics years later, very rich Zionist Jews found they could exploit the pay-for-play system of US politics through AIPAC and similar organizations, which matters a lot because Zionist Jews disproportionately are very rich. Criticism of this (and Israel itself) was generally met with retaliation that cited the Holocaust (see: Norman Finkelstein’s The Holocaust Industry - great book).
Of course on a more general level the US govt then fell into a feedback loop of benefitting from cybersecurity and regional security advancements against Iran primarily, but also Iraq and Iran.
Furthermore, evangelism in the US heavily influenced much of US social policy post-Reagan which is very much entrenched in Zionism for ideological reasons

I can respect it. I’m not about to act like this was the better choice in November, whether or not I loved either choice. But I get where they’re coming from.

I very much respect your perspective. There’s difference I already make with the oppressed in my local community, and I can follow that path offline. Appreciate the reminder to step away

Democrats would not have done s*** to either solve foundational issues of citizens’ suffering nor Republican’s, as they have not done for the past decade

All they do is stave off the coming wave, scold anyone who asks for a better world, and makes their money before they Gtfo

you have engaged with this entire movement through screens and liberal media

any gotcha over Kamala being less evil is really just internet noise

serious people aren’t crying at third party voters or communists that Kamala loss, only liberals who never cared past it being the socially morally correct popular thing to do at the moment

No it's because you guys get online and have these dumb conversations dissuading people from voting.

I'm gonna be real, it's fine if youre a communist, socialist, revolutionary, anarchist, etc.

Stop telling people to not vote. You can do all this communist/socialist s*** and have these people interact with the current system by voting in their communities.

I have no idea how we can all be young adults talking about how you're fine letting some idiot run your country, potentially wasting 4 years of your life, so people can larp online about revolutions.

I don't even care about the democrats. It's about not letting crazy people win elections.

You guys need to stop thinking like this. It's near half a decade of our lives getting set back when we let the most unhinged person run the country. I'm not saying your vote is gonna change the world. I'm saying it costs nothing, to not be that guy, arguing online about how people shouldn't vote when the other guy is crazy.

The DNC skipping past the democratic process afforded by a primary in order to pick the weakest candidate possible was bad. Really bad. Embarrassing, really.

But at least the US wouldn't have withdrawn federal support for every minority group on the planet.

Genuine question, do you think if the Dems campaigned on a pro-Palestine platform that the rising tide of fascism would still inevitably reach mainstream politics?

Unless you have a fundamental understanding of US imperialism then any critique of both parties falls flat to lesser evilism, you would get laughed out of any academic room not controlled by Zionists lol

This isn’t even a commie thing but so many just outright smug and wrong people who definitely haven’t engaged with the movement outside of seeing MSNBC report on Gaza

You can have a fundamental understanding of US imperialism and all the histories behind it. But people can only make choices based on what’s presented to them, and Kamala was a better choice plain and simple.

I have been reading about AIPAC recently so that makes sense. And i figured “control” of the Middle East too. Thanks for writing that out. Really is sad how much money controls everything in DC.

I’ve read some stuff about how we buy a f*** ton of their cyber tools for our police & federal enforcement. Just crazy.

Kamala wouldn’t have won even if all the third party voters went to her

I engage with discussions online with political lines that I think a right, f*** whatever you say about “not voting”

You are fundamentally angry and mad at the wrong person and typed that for nothing, the fact you are more concerned with what I’m doing rather than why the DNC failed you is precisely why they don’t do anything

I can’t help you see past that

I will continue to put my politics online as I see fit and you can vote blue again

You can’t convince me that these two are these same a mere two weeks into this sorry dude

Americans aren’t even going to be able to muster up protests and movements in support of Palestine because they’re going to have a million other protests decrying ICE, abortion bans, DOGE scandals, Elon scandals, dismantling of the government, dismantling of social programs, and on and on and on.

It’s chaos all the way down

Divide and conquer

There's too much bullshit to address it all at once

I think a Kamala term would have likely been I Can't Believe It's Not Biden, I don't think it would have seen Elon Musk get access to the federal payment system

I still think voting left was more important and could have helped us coast until automation/ai forces us to revamp our economic system.

Instead we are just seeing a faster collapse with even more people being hurt in the process than ever before.

Now I won't be surprised if we get the really bad ending where we're all tech slaves for the elite.

They can think it’s the “better choice” but believing the outcome of Gaza would’ve been different isn’t true.

The better choice is purely for one’s own personal stake if the conversation is solely on Gaza right now.

Again, not understanding US imperialism and the bipartisan role both parties have will lead you to saying Democrats were the better choice on Gaza because you pay attention to words rather than the general direction and action Israeli occupation has taken regardless of figurehead

Like you keep saying “I understand I understand” NO you don’t.

Go out to a Palestine protest and talk to an actual Palestinian, one hosted by SJP, PYM, PSL. For the love of f***ing God.

Embarrassing ass s***. Are there some who supported Trump? Yes. Are there some Palestinians who truly believe (like a lot of people in different areas of their life) that the Democrats were the lesser evil in Gaza and Biden was “trying his best”? Yes

None of that changes the contradictions between the Israeli settler state and it becoming stable. Which means Palestinians must die either way

You can’t f***ing genocide harder. I’m sorry for the language because you are being nice but there is no meaningful distinction

Gaza is an OPEN AIR CONCENTRATION CAMP

If you told a Jewish person in Aushwitz in 1943 that Atleast they weren’t all dead yet technically and they should choose a lesser evil, you would sound f***ing insane

This isn’t some moral s***, the fundamental political economy of the settler colonial German project and settler colonial Israel are the same just different forms

Next week they're going to recast February as White Male Awareness Month

But at least we're being told up front that Gaza is going to be flattened into a parking lot using taxpayer money

No one is trying to convince Santiago

The dems are complicit in the rising tide of fascism for a million other reasons

They deserve just as much blame as the republicans. How do you field so much power, do nothing but collaborate with these neo nazis, and think you can escape blame?