whippet volverse

2y

it should but its hard to do a rollout for YoungBoy he's embroiled in too much s***
on top of his house arrest, his beef with Durk, Lil Baby, half the rap game, etc. means no cross-promotion from featured artists and nobody posting it on their social media
Youngboy doesn't do interviews and couldn't even link with DaBaby in person for a music video, I feel like if he was out on free terms and they gave this a real thought out rollout Better than You would easily be doing like 60-80k. its a good album but not many people really even knew about it before it was out

FREE

2y

Yeah but that was a tape compared compared an album those sales not supposed to be the same.

You wrong btw YB has always depended on hard-core fans casuals and the mainstream always hate him. The problem here is his own fans aren't listening cause they hate Dababy like everyone else.

whippet volverse

2y

it should but its hard to do a rollout for YoungBoy he's embroiled in too much s***
on top of his house arrest, his beef with Durk, Lil Baby, half the rap game, etc. means no cross-promotion from featured artists and nobody posting it on their social media
Youngboy doesn't do interviews and couldn't even link with DaBaby in person for a music video, I feel like if he was out on free terms and they gave this a real thought out rollout Better than You would easily be doing like 60-80k. its a good album but not many people really even knew about it before it was out

martian master

2y

They dropped Hit and Bestie in January, and Hit got a video late January too.

DaBaby was pushin it week Before release, and Neighbour Hood superstar video dropped a few days before release.

Also there weren't any feats on the project were there? So no cross promo either way no?

And the Birdman/YB tape got same/less promo and did 29K fw. DaBaby collab should do more than that lmao. It's a mixtape not a album, and a collab tape at that, so I'm not expecting 100K+, but it should be clearing 50K+ based on roll out + artists.

Bandito

2y

Every excuse your making for YB can be said for Von. He is dead and cannot do interviews and drop new videos. Rap beef sells records. That’s why people beef.

Both artists are considered major acts. DaBaby is free and is on a promo run and there sales are still low. YB is also allowed visitors so they could do a video together.

I also think people put to much weight on a artist posting someone else cover art. The average artist has more than 1 million followers. If there followers actually clicked and listened when they posted an album there own albums would always do 1 million first week.

FREE

2y

Yeah but that was a tape compared compared an album those sales not supposed to be the same.

You wrong btw YB has always depended on hard-core fans casuals and the mainstream always hate him. The problem here is his own fans aren't listening cause they hate Dababy like everyone else.

whippet volverse

2y

lol maybe you're right

but artists value that cosign for a reason, that ig post can be the reason someone remembers that you have an album dropping this Friday

whippet volverse

2y

haha my point was that the no features thing is because youngboy hates everybody, Dababy probably would've wanted to have features on there

and the music video is less effective because they have no scenes Together.
that's important for collaborations

when you compare them, the videos where the artists are together are gonna get more engagement because fans want to see their favorite artists interact.

Bandito

2y

But DaBaby has hardcore fans. U think both hard core fan bases would get them to 50k at least.

People hate DaBaby this is true. His canceling did Jack s***.
YB is apparently as big as drake of you listen to the internet.
The reality is both acts are not as big as they think and do not have enough pull to do s*** by themselves. At this point YB Better is a meme done by people who don’t listen to YB.

martian master

2y

Popstar by Khaled don't got no scenes with both artists and the video went crazy

Yung Bleu Mine's Still Remix doesn't even have the featured artist in the video and it went crazy (if you're measuring engagement by views, it has more views than the Durk/Baby video you linked).

Even the new MGK video is doing well (2.3M views in a day compared to NeighbourHood Superstar's 3.9 in 3) and the featured artist isn't even in the video.

I really don't think it matters, And atleast both artists are present in the videos for the Baby YB tape

yungboiezi

2y

If he went the way Pop went in terms of making music for the clubs then yeah, but he wouldn’t have made it big just off drill music alone.

Dedication 666

2y

YB could do numbers on an album if he released like major artists do. The problem is YB still drops music like he irrelevant. No reason for him to drop a project every month.

Bandito

2y

Yeah he’s flooded the market which is good when you try and create a fan base but now it hurts you.

Bandito

2y

Exactly - These are excuses.

If we are to think objectively the reason this collab project has flopped:

• rap fans are tired of Collab projects.
• these artists are only truly stars amongst their core fans.
• YBs core is tired of him flooding the streets with similar sounding projects.
• Baby’s core is tired of his mid that he been putting out and all the goofy s*** he been doing.
• in short both artists had their peaks and are experiencing a decline

martian master

2y

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I don't know if I'd go as far as to say YB is experincing a decline. When he drops a full fleged album (example: Sincerly Kentrell late last year) he will clear 100K easily.

And his mixtapes usually do good numbers relatively.

Colors did 79K. Being a mixtape that's solid.
The tape with Birdman did 29K which is okay considering it's a collab tape (collab tapes usually do less than the bigger artists solo) and its with f***ing Birdman.

It's just this one that I'd say under preformed

As for DaBaby, idk.. He hasn't dropped a album in nearly 2 years but his last album easily cleared 100K. He dropped 2 EPs that did around 25K each but they are just EPs. And this tape. Won't know for sure until we see a solo album. Maybe he really is "cancelled"

Dedication 666

2y

He needs a management team.

martian master

2y

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I don't know if I'd go as far as to say YB is experincing a decline. When he drops a full fleged album (example: Sincerly Kentrell late last year) he will clear 100K easily.

And his mixtapes usually do good numbers relatively.

Colors did 79K. Being a mixtape that's solid.
The tape with Birdman did 29K which is okay considering it's a collab tape (collab tapes usually do less than the bigger artists solo) and its with f***ing Birdman.

It's just this one that I'd say under preformed

As for DaBaby, idk.. He hasn't dropped a album in nearly 2 years but his last album easily cleared 100K. He dropped 2 EPs that did around 25K each but they are just EPs. And this tape. Won't know for sure until we see a solo album. Maybe he really is "cancelled"

REACTIVE

2y

Lmao nah he simply doesn’t care about first week sales. He will still be. A top 3 most streamed artist end Of the year like the last few years.

Also he’s flooding this time because there’s a possibility of him losing his case and having to sit in jail for a few years

Dedication 666

2y

Top 3 most streamed with a project every month...

I'm talking about overall sales to and his will always be on the lower end for his projects the way he drops.

Why flood the market and not craft albums so you can drop while in jail.

martian master

2y

Good #s for Von.

Bad #s for DaBaby and YB. YB's tape with Birdman did about 30K. With DaBaby should crack 50K atleast

Bandito

2y

But DaBaby has hardcore fans. U think both hard core fan bases would get them to 50k at least.

People hate DaBaby this is true. His canceling did Jack s***.
YB is apparently as big as drake of you listen to the internet.
The reality is both acts are not as big as they think and do not have enough pull to do s*** by themselves. At this point YB Better is a meme done by people who don’t listen to YB.

A Mad Ass Nigga

2y

It’s just a mixtape lol neither is an L