Jul 2, 2020·1 replySmooferCouldn’t have anything to do with massive causalities from WW2 and active suppression of communism by every major capitalist power
Japan had a nuke drop on them and look how they did post WW2
Jul 2, 2020·2 replies
Bri10But is there agency in that transaction? sure enough your voluntarily signing the lease agreement, but the alternative is homelessness, it's hardly a voluntary decision.
It's an obvious choice, but it's not involuntary
homelessness is an option
- Jul 2, 2020·edited
But there is some truths to what OP says. I couldnt study in Munich because the rent there is just ridiculous.
Problem comes with clustering. If you want to study you essentially need to live in close proximity to your university. So you got some rich ass landlords laughing their ass of when they collectively raise the rent making it essentially impossible for anybody who is not born crazy rich to study in Munich.
Mind you that this is all in a country where alot of stuff is already paid by the state.
Jul 2, 2020·2 repliesFundamentals
broke communist bois that’s just something we Americans can’t relate to
Somehow the country's GDP doesn't help the people at the bottom too much
Jul 2, 2020·1 reply
SynopsisI'm saying I don't know the nuances of how abolishing landlords would work under capitalism
But we live in a capitalist society. What can we do?
You don’t know and that’s fine. You don’t even seem to be looking for answers either, so I don’t know what your goal is with this thread.
- Jul 2, 2020Fundamentals
Japan had a nuke drop on them and look how they did post WW2
And the US gave them massive support afterwards?
- OPJul 2, 2020·2 repliesjg33
can you elaborate on that idea? I just feel like it's really broad.
Well briefly , just say theres a plot of land within that community. They'd vote on how to best use it
- Jul 2, 2020·1 replyjg33
It's an obvious choice, but it's not involuntary
homelessness is an option
"You can take part in an unfair system, or you can die"
- Jul 2, 2020·1 replyTheGreatGameLord
Somehow the country's GDP doesn't help the people at the bottom too much
I’m sure the people tending to the wheat fields in the USSR were having a great time
- OPJul 2, 2020·1 replyDVLPR
But we live in a capitalist society. What can we do?
You don’t know and that’s fine. You don’t even seem to be looking for answers either, so I don’t know what your goal is with this thread.
Yeah I dont us to be living in a capitalist society
- Jul 2, 2020Fundamentals
I’m sure the people tending to the wheat fields in the USSR were having a great time
Wow, poverty exists in other countries, who could've expected that
- Jul 2, 2020·1 replyTheGreatGameLord
"You can take part in an unfair system, or you can die"
I do not see how it is unfair
Capitalism is a game of choices at its root
simply because something isn't equal does not necessarily mean that it is unfair
- Jul 2, 2020·1 reply
hot pancakesoh don’t get me wrong, I’m not for completely unregulated markets, I think the government should intervene to keep corporations and other entities in check where need be, but I also believe there should be some form of freedom and ability for monetary gain when you come up with a good product.
I think people should be allowed to own and operate business and grow as they see fit, provided the government will step in when things get unfair / out of hand. Currently today, they are supposed to, I acknowledge they don’t, but that’s more of a political issue with lobbying and corporations dumping money into the pockets of government officials (which I am completely against)
And as far as the wheel and typing press, I’ll agree with you there to an extent, but in today’s society, we are so comfortable we don’t have the real need to develop anything to ensure survival. So people need some sort of reward for their risk taking when developing a product, and that chance of success makes some people think the risk of entrepreneurship is worth it
If we have a need to innovate new political systems, but the lens through which innovataion is framed to serve the ideas you espouse is so narrow it actually stifles innovation, we could've had a coronavirus vaccine ages ago, but alas it was deemed unprofitable.
- OPJul 2, 2020·1 replyjg33
I do not see how it is unfair
Capitalism is a game of choices at its root
simply because something isn't equal does not necessarily mean that it is unfair
Except inequality and unfairness are linked
- Jul 2, 2020·1 replySynopsis
Well briefly , just say theres a plot of land within that community. They'd vote on how to best use it
what if they voted to evict you and left you homeless....
- Jul 2, 2020Synopsis
Except inequality and unfairness are linked
agreed. not in every single instance though
Jul 2, 2020Of course the concept needs to be abolished for basic decency but without literally getting rid of housing as a commodity in order to implement a form of state ownership (like Singapore), housing market will continue to force more people into exploitative and precarious situations
- OPJul 2, 2020·1 replyjg33
what if they voted to evict you and left you homeless....
They couldn't, because thatd be a violation of rights and an infringement upon your individual freedom
Jul 2, 2020wtf is this thread
- Jul 2, 2020·1 replySynopsis
Yeah I dont us to be living in a capitalist society
By making this thread, are you looking for answers on how we can abolish landlords?
Jul 2, 2020SynopsisWell briefly , just say theres a plot of land within that community. They'd vote on how to best use it
Whose going to delegate which community is which and where property lines start and end at ?
- Jul 2, 2020·1 replySynopsis
They couldn't, because thatd be a violation of rights and an infringement upon your individual freedom
why do you have a right to property that the public owns?
- OPJul 2, 2020·1 replyDVLPR
By making this thread, are you looking for answers on how we can abolish landlords?
No. I'm letting ppl know we need to do it
- Jul 2, 2020TheGreatGameLord
Somehow the country's GDP doesn't help the people at the bottom too much
lol what. Show me a country with a low GDP that got a healthy lower class.
- Jul 2, 2020·3 replies
You communist broke bois come up with a better system that works and hasn’t historically led to oppression of people’s personal and economic freedoms and come back to me.
Fundamentals out
