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  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Mel

    Who said what someone earns as income dictates what their worth as a person in the human sense?

    capitalism?

  • Jul 2, 2020
    SWAN

    Can't imagine studying for 8 years and being in training for 7 years to become a brain surgeon just for fun lmao.

    And then work an average of 61 hours a week. I doubt more than 1% of people would do all that because they love doing it

    well they shouldn't be working 61 hours a week no matter what.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    chips

    hahaha mate he has never done an hour of physical labour in his life, what a goofy

    its very weird that you people can't have this conversation without making weird ass assumptions.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    its very weird that you people can't have this conversation without making weird ass assumptions.

    your weird ass assumption is that people will en masse flog themselves for a "sense of fulfilment", mine is perfectly logical as a result

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    I understand that not all people have equal capabilities. But just because someone is a factory worker and someone is a brain surgeon does mean that one deserves any less than the other.

    This belief is the root of your problem. This is so far from reality. The second half. And it must only come from the fact you have no idea what it takes to become something like a surgeon or what it takes to work that as a job

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    capitalism?

    Economic system will always care about money, it doesn't mean you can't separate it from values of people.

    Money is money and people are people.

    There are rich people who could care less about their money, and there are some poor people who never care about getting rich.

  • Jul 2, 2020
    chips

    your weird ass assumption is that people will en masse flog themselves for a "sense of fulfilment", mine is perfectly logical as a result

    i dont think u know what flogging is if ur using it in such a way

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    a factory worker and a brain surgeon should not be paid the same

    becoming a brain surgeon is a 110% biggest time investment then becoming a factor worker

    shout out to both, both are necessary, but pay is based on time investment, and someone who took 8 years in school and x amount of years in training should not be paid the same as a factory worker

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Mel

    Economic system will always care about money, it doesn't mean you can't separate it from values of people.

    Money is money and people are people.

    There are rich people who could care less about their money, and there are some poor people who never care about getting rich.

    capitalism does not let society differentiate people's value from their worth as people

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    capitalism does not let society differentiate people's value from their worth as people

    What defines the worth of someone to you

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    GIO GIO

    This belief is the root of your problem. This is so far from reality. The second half. And it must only come from the fact you have no idea what it takes to become something like a surgeon or what it takes to work that as a job

    the harsh reality is that his viewpoint comes from a lack of success

    human nature will always value people who are good at things. whether that be through financial status, attention from women, power or influence etc.

    a world where those who are poor at things are valued the same as those who are superior is not realistic. think about how stupid it sounds.

  • Jul 2, 2020
    GIO GIO

    This belief is the root of your problem. This is so far from reality. The second half. And it must only come from the fact you have no idea what it takes to become something like a surgeon or what it takes to work that as a job

    This is not a "problem" lmao. Again, lets have this conversation when you can stop making baseless assumptions.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Mel

    What defines the worth of someone to you

    the fact they are a human being

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    the fact they are a human being

    What if their dishonest and alienated from general society

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Mel

    What if their dishonest and alienated from general society

    wdym

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    hot pancakes

    a factory worker and a brain surgeon should not be paid the same

    becoming a brain surgeon is a 110% biggest time investment then becoming a factor worker

    shout out to both, both are necessary, but pay is based on time investment, and someone who took 8 years in school and x amount of years in training should not be paid the same as a factory worker

    i'll correct you and say pay is based upon value, which is generally a function of rarity/specificity in ability and the role's ability to generate productivity

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    chips

    the harsh reality is that his viewpoint comes from a lack of success

    human nature will always value people who are good at things. whether that be through financial status, attention from women, power or influence etc.

    a world where those who are poor at things are valued the same as those who are superior is not realistic. think about how stupid it sounds.

    so who are you or anyone else to decide what things are considered desirable?

    a doctor could be a s***ty house builder or home caretaker, and vice versa.

    so now the doctor is poor at something that someone else is superior at. why is the doctor valued more highly?

  • Jul 2, 2020
    DVLPR

    Don’t discriminate against people’s questions. There are no stupid questions. You made the thread and you want to spread awareness. Do that instead.

    We need J Cole to write a verse towards OP

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    wdym

    We're all human beings and that should give us all a minimum of some worth whatever it is.

    But some of us will behave different from others just naturally, so do you think that does anything to affect someones worth?

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    GIO GIO

    No one will be. Or surgeons. Or any other complex job society needs that is rewarded by pay. No one will have incentive to work hard

    Just be a potato farmer bro

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    so who are you or anyone else to decide what things are considered desirable?

    a doctor could be a s***ty house builder or home caretaker, and vice versa.

    so now the doctor is poor at something that someone else is superior at. why is the doctor valued more highly?

    one is readily replaceable, one isn't. I wouldn't have thought it was hard to figure that out

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Mel

    We're all human beings and that should give us all a minimum of some worth whatever it is.

    But some of us will behave different from others just naturally, so do you think that does anything to affect someones worth?

    No

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Undecided

    Just be a potato farmer bro

    Hi friend 🥺

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Mel

    Hi friend 🥺

    Hello my friend

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Back to the original topic, how exactly do you propose getting rid of landlords? Should people not be able to rent houses? If not, should people also be prohibited from renting cars/tools/equipment?

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