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  • Nov 27, 2024
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    mr get dough

    I fully had Drake still in my top 10 after the beef

    Like closer to 5 than 10 too but after this lawsuit I think I need to evaluate it some

    Id say he should still be Top 15 at least, where he fits in that is all subjective.

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    Perfectly said. I agree that he shouldn't be completely tarnished and he is taken out of the overall GOAT convo but I personally still have him top 1.

    He’ll always be #1 on my personal list but definitely relying heavily on his previous work idk what bro is doin this days lol

  • Nov 27, 2024
    JUUL

    Id say he should still be Top 15 at least, where he fits in that is all subjective.

    Yeah I’d agree, i mean Drake is one of the greats point blank but I definitely think this law suit will have a terrible effect on his legacy Im legit shocked hes even doing it.

    Dont get me wrong I’m sure UMG did do some illegal s*** for NLU just like they do for Drakes music lol but I just think a law suit after a beef will never be explainable to most hip hop fans. I think hes just worried about NLU being performed at the super bowl

  • Nov 27, 2024

    he was already stamped w/ TPAB

    it's just a matter of placement atp

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    mr get dough

    I fully had Drake still in my top 10 after the beef

    Like closer to 5 than 10 too but after this lawsuit I think I need to evaluate it some

    Always one of the realest posters bruh. I know we all have our biases but you keep it objective fr

  • Nov 27, 2024
    Jbreezyondeck

    Always one of the realest posters bruh. I know we all have our biases but you keep it objective fr

    I love rap as a whole bro, I’m a fan/hater of all these dudes lol i think a lot of people love a specific rapper more than they love the culture itself

    Appreciate u bro the feeling is mutual

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    mr get dough

    I fully had Drake still in my top 10 after the beef

    Like closer to 5 than 10 too but after this lawsuit I think I need to evaluate it some

    I give Drake a lot of grace and he was always top 5 for me but I do agree with this depending on how this all plays out. It's in the air

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    superstar

    I give Drake a lot of grace and he was always top 5 for me but I do agree with this depending on how this all plays out. It's in the air

    Yeah especially if they really take this to court, my dad made an interesting point you never know the tactics UMG might use to f*** with Drake’s legacy. Like they have access to reference tracks, private info etc they could really do a character assassination that’s why I def wanna see how it plays out.

    I still am kinda hard pressed to imagine a top 10 of all time that doesn’t have Drake in it, but man this damn Not Like Us will just not die

    Like this is actually crazy, but then on the other hand you never know it Drake has some s*** up his sleeve too like maybe this lawsuit is for a reason we cant even think of

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    The references track thing was a really good point imo

    I don’t think Drake can handle another batch of references leaking, especially if a more lyrical one leaks

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    mr get dough

    Yeah especially if they really take this to court, my dad made an interesting point you never know the tactics UMG might use to f*** with Drake’s legacy. Like they have access to reference tracks, private info etc they could really do a character assassination that’s why I def wanna see how it plays out.

    I still am kinda hard pressed to imagine a top 10 of all time that doesn’t have Drake in it, but man this damn Not Like Us will just not die

    https://twitter.com/kendrickchart/status/1861652967486627868

    Like this is actually crazy, but then on the other hand you never know it Drake has some s*** up his sleeve too like maybe this lawsuit is for a reason we cant even think of

    Right this year definitely boosted Kendrick in this convo although NLU didn't remove Drake imo because even Ether made Hov cry and Drake still has some career left in him

    This lawsuit however I think determines a lot legacy wise and like yall said you never know what Drake OR UMG will do

  • Nov 27, 2024

    He is the greatest rapper of all time
    Jayz close 2nd or 1a/1b
    Nas right after them

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    superstar

    Right this year definitely boosted Kendrick in this convo although NLU didn't remove Drake imo because even Ether made Hov cry and Drake still has some career left in him

    This lawsuit however I think determines a lot legacy wise and like yall said you never know what Drake OR UMG will do

    Yup

    We got crash out mode Drake vs the machine

    This is honestly the most interesting part of the whole beef so far which is crazy to say this deep in

  • Nov 27, 2024
    mr get dough

    The references track thing was a really good point imo

    I don’t think Drake can handle another batch of references leaking, especially if a more lyrical one leaks

    That too because that'll be too many cracks in armor even though I know the pen is lioned

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    WRU

    hes not in contention with the GOATS after this year lol he is quite literally one of the best rappers of all time

    Eminem, OutKast, RZA, MF Doom, and Mos Def would like to say Hi

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    How many rappers have gone as long as Kendrick without making a less than solid album?

    Since 2009:

    Kendrick Lamar EP
    Overly Dedicated
    Section.80
    Good Kid Maad City
    To Pimp a Butterfly
    Untitled Unmastered
    DAMN.
    Mr. Morale
    GNX

    By the end of an identical stretch of time, Kanye was putting out Jesus Is King.

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    mr get dough

    Yup

    We got crash out mode Drake vs the machine

    This is honestly the most interesting part of the whole beef so far which is crazy to say this deep in

    Fr Crash Out Drake has be one of the most interesting Drakes ever

    Almost every artist on his level has crashed out big time though it's just his turn

  • Nov 27, 2024
    Ghoma

    Eminem, OutKast, RZA, MF Doom, and Mos Def would like to say Hi

    Mos Def is my favorite mc but his peak was not as long as Kendrick’s unfortunately

    Prime Black Dante tho

  • Nov 27, 2024
    Noir

    How many rappers have gone as long as Kendrick without making a less than solid album?

    Since 2009:

    Kendrick Lamar EP
    Overly Dedicated
    Section.80
    Good Kid Maad City
    To Pimp a Butterfly
    Untitled Unmastered
    DAMN.
    Mr. Morale
    GNX

    By the end of an identical stretch of time, Kanye was putting out Jesus Is King.

    He hasn’t missed yet

    We are witnessing the rise of the true goat

  • Nov 27, 2024

    He was the forefront during 2011? When IMO was the new golden age of hip-hop. The westcoast put alot of weight on his back but he’s still held onto it all these years. A true artist which are far and few these days

  • Nov 27, 2024
    superstar

    Fr Crash Out Drake has be one of the most interesting Drakes ever

    Almost every artist on his level has crashed out big time though it's just his turn

    I definitely wonder how his crash out is gonna compare to Ye’s

    Ye is obviously crazier but Drake has way more reason to crash out

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    Noir

    How many rappers have gone as long as Kendrick without making a less than solid album?

    Since 2009:

    Kendrick Lamar EP
    Overly Dedicated
    Section.80
    Good Kid Maad City
    To Pimp a Butterfly
    Untitled Unmastered
    DAMN.
    Mr. Morale
    GNX

    By the end of an identical stretch of time, Kanye was putting out Jesus Is King.

    I almost never entertain Ye/Dot comparisons just on the fact of GKMC/TPAB/DAMN being his commonly agreed best albums, and Kanye being able to match them with 3+ more albums on or above that level, along with their respective spectacles, performances, and eras

    Dot just isn't there imo but just like with Drake, Dot still has some career left in him

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    superstar

    I almost never entertain Ye/Dot comparisons just on the fact of GKMC/TPAB/DAMN being his commonly agreed best albums, and Kanye being able to match them with 3+ more albums on or above that level, along with their respective spectacles, performances, and eras

    Dot just isn't there imo but just like with Drake, Dot still has some career left in him

    It's going to come down to what you value, I think - consistent greatness or pioneering all-time classics. Kanye's ceiling is higher because he brought something brand new to rap, but his floor is really low.

    At the rate the two of them are going, Kanye's discography is going to be a rich man's Eminem 15 years from now, with a lot of garbage making you want to forget how great he was. Meanwhile, I'm not sure it's possible for Kendrick to make a less than well-received album.

  • Nov 27, 2024
    Noir

    It's going to come down to what you value, I think - consistent greatness or pioneering all-time classics. Kanye's ceiling is higher because he brought something brand new to rap, but his floor is really low.

    At the rate the two of them are going, Kanye's discography is going to be a rich man's Eminem 15 years from now, with a lot of garbage making you want to forget how great he was. Meanwhile, I'm not sure it's possible for Kendrick to make a less than well-received album.

    The industry and media complex will gas everything kendrick touches. It almost doesn't matter what he releases atp

    this isn;t true of any of the past or current goats

  • Nov 27, 2024
    Ghoma

    Eminem, OutKast, RZA, MF Doom, and Mos Def would like to say Hi

    fits right into that tier of people

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    Noir

    It's going to come down to what you value, I think - consistent greatness or pioneering all-time classics. Kanye's ceiling is higher because he brought something brand new to rap, but his floor is really low.

    At the rate the two of them are going, Kanye's discography is going to be a rich man's Eminem 15 years from now, with a lot of garbage making you want to forget how great he was. Meanwhile, I'm not sure it's possible for Kendrick to make a less than well-received album.

    That's a fair take and we'll just have to see discography wise. and I agree with the last sentence. This my be my Kanye bias but it terms of everything else that makes a rap artist a GOAT, it's hard to see Dot surpassing what Kanye did in his prime especially this far into his career

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