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  • Nov 27, 2024
    Wally3500

    kendrick is a solid artist, but let’s not act like he’s the first to piece rhymes together

    Rapping ability – His delivery is probably his weakest point. His voice and tone aren’t very captivating and sometimes sound flat, like he’s rapping from the bottom of a trash can.

    Writing – What exactly do you mean by “writing”? It overlaps with concepts and storytelling

    Flows – Kendrick isn’t doing anything new lol. Nas, Lupe, Wayne, Black Thought, Em, Cole, and Andre 3K arguably had better flows years ago. Let’s not rewrite history to prop him up

    Concepts – Sure, he’s made conceptual albums, but so have others like Lupe. If you think his are better, that’s just your opinion

    Cohesive albums – We all heard his latest stuff—it sounds like 10 different versions of NLU. I mean the consensus was this s*** was a mixtape and another one is dropping in 3 MO

    Making hits – He’s had hits, no doubt. his biggest one was seven years ago however

    Storytelling – If you enjoy his stories, cool. But as a 38-year-old multimillionaire still rapping about stuff he heard in Compton, it can feel played out to most

    Diss tracks – Big asterisk here. He made up a fake daughter (AUTO L) weak lines like the Haley Joel Osment bar, and made wild accusations while ignoring real predators around him. Plus, he picked a fight with Drake when the whole industry was already piling on. But the real elephant in the room here is that 2x out of the big 3 have accused bro of botting while hes still pretending

    Pop songs – I’ll give him this one; he’s got some pop hits.

    Let’s not ignore how much the media and industry have pushed Kendrick. Without all that backing, we might not even be having this conversation. No other rapper—Jay, Ye, Travis, Drake—gets that level of excuse-making blood

    damn u really dont like him im not even gonna waste the time to counter all of these or point out the flaws in your argument

  • Nov 27, 2024

    Yeah at this point Kendrick’s discog can chat with Kanye, OutKast, Jay Z, ATCQ etc…Definitely Top 5 at this point

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    Wally3500

    kendrick is a solid artist, but let’s not act like he’s the first to piece rhymes together

    Rapping ability – His delivery is probably his weakest point. His voice and tone aren’t very captivating and sometimes sound flat, like he’s rapping from the bottom of a trash can.

    Writing – What exactly do you mean by “writing”? It overlaps with concepts and storytelling

    Flows – Kendrick isn’t doing anything new lol. Nas, Lupe, Wayne, Black Thought, Em, Cole, and Andre 3K arguably had better flows years ago. Let’s not rewrite history to prop him up

    Concepts – Sure, he’s made conceptual albums, but so have others like Lupe. If you think his are better, that’s just your opinion

    Cohesive albums – We all heard his latest stuff—it sounds like 10 different versions of NLU. I mean the consensus was this s*** was a mixtape and another one is dropping in 3 MO

    Making hits – He’s had hits, no doubt. his biggest one was seven years ago however

    Storytelling – If you enjoy his stories, cool. But as a 38-year-old multimillionaire still rapping about stuff he heard in Compton, it can feel played out to most

    Diss tracks – Big asterisk here. He made up a fake daughter (AUTO L) weak lines like the Haley Joel Osment bar, and made wild accusations while ignoring real predators around him. Plus, he picked a fight with Drake when the whole industry was already piling on. But the real elephant in the room here is that 2x out of the big 3 have accused bro of botting while hes still pretending

    Pop songs – I’ll give him this one; he’s got some pop hits.

    Let’s not ignore how much the media and industry have pushed Kendrick. Without all that backing, we might not even be having this conversation. No other rapper—Jay, Ye, Travis, Drake—gets that level of excuse-making blood

    this is such a boring gimmick

  • Nov 27, 2024

    He’s Top 5 forsure and not 5

  • Nov 27, 2024

    Nah he not. That last album was a nice but a misstep

  • Nov 27, 2024
    Wally3500

    kendrick is a solid artist, but let’s not act like he’s the first to piece rhymes together

    Rapping ability – His delivery is probably his weakest point. His voice and tone aren’t very captivating and sometimes sound flat, like he’s rapping from the bottom of a trash can.

    Writing – What exactly do you mean by “writing”? It overlaps with concepts and storytelling

    Flows – Kendrick isn’t doing anything new lol. Nas, Lupe, Wayne, Black Thought, Em, Cole, and Andre 3K arguably had better flows years ago. Let’s not rewrite history to prop him up

    Concepts – Sure, he’s made conceptual albums, but so have others like Lupe. If you think his are better, that’s just your opinion

    Cohesive albums – We all heard his latest stuff—it sounds like 10 different versions of NLU. I mean the consensus was this s*** was a mixtape and another one is dropping in 3 MO

    Making hits – He’s had hits, no doubt. his biggest one was seven years ago however

    Storytelling – If you enjoy his stories, cool. But as a 38-year-old multimillionaire still rapping about stuff he heard in Compton, it can feel played out to most

    Diss tracks – Big asterisk here. He made up a fake daughter (AUTO L) weak lines like the Haley Joel Osment bar, and made wild accusations while ignoring real predators around him. Plus, he picked a fight with Drake when the whole industry was already piling on. But the real elephant in the room here is that 2x out of the big 3 have accused bro of botting while hes still pretending

    Pop songs – I’ll give him this one; he’s got some pop hits.

    Let’s not ignore how much the media and industry have pushed Kendrick. Without all that backing, we might not even be having this conversation. No other rapper—Jay, Ye, Travis, Drake—gets that level of excuse-making blood

    While these are all very great points kendrick is a solid artist, but let’s not act like he’s the first to piece rhymes together

    Rapping ability – His delivery is probably his weakest point. His voice and tone aren’t very captivating and sometimes sound flat, like he’s rapping from the bottom of a trash can.

    Writing – What exactly do you mean by “writing”? It overlaps with concepts and storytelling

    Flows – Kendrick isn’t doing anything new lol. Nas, Lupe, Wayne, Black Thought, Em, Cole, and Andre 3K arguably had better flows years ago. Let’s not rewrite history to prop him up

    Concepts – Sure, he’s made conceptual albums, but so have others like Lupe. If you think his are better, that’s just your opinion

    Cohesive albums – We all heard his latest stuff—it sounds like 10 different versions of NLU. I mean the consensus was this s*** was a mixtape and another one is dropping in 3 MO

    Making hits – He’s had hits, no doubt. his biggest one was seven years ago however

    Storytelling – If you enjoy his stories, cool. But as a 38-year-old multimillionaire still rapping about stuff he heard in Compton, it can feel played out to most

    Diss tracks – Big asterisk here. He made up a fake daughter (AUTO L) weak lines like the Haley Joel Osment bar, and made wild accusations while ignoring real predators around him. Plus, he picked a fight with Drake when the whole industry was already piling on. But the real elephant in the room here is that 2x out of the big 3 have accused bro of botting while hes still pretending

    Pop songs – I’ll give him this one; he’s got some pop hits.

    Let’s not ignore how much the media and industry have pushed Kendrick. Without all that backing, we might not even be having this conversation. No other rapper—Jay, Ye, Travis, Drake—gets that level of excuse-making blood

  • Nov 27, 2024

    As a huge Kendrick stan I had to rethink his GOAT status after seeing GNX’s first week numbers

  • Nov 27, 2024
    teku izing

    this is such a boring gimmick

    What part do you disagree with?

  • Nov 27, 2024

    He is the goat theres no debate anymore in my eyes

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    for someone of a certain age I imagine he is probably right there tbh & in terms of just classic efforts his trajectory is there, but ain’t nobody f***ing with Ye man

  • Nov 27, 2024

    He will have as good of a resume as anyone honestly

  • Nov 27, 2024

    He objectively should be in everyone’s top 5 of all time

    The difficulty comparing him to Pac and Biggie is the fact that they both had short careers

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    In no particular order my personal top 5 would be:

    • Kendrick
    • Nas
    • Jay
    • Wayne
    • Pac

    With Andre and Biggie and Em just missing the cut

    Might switch Jay out with Andre tbh

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    humey

    for someone of a certain age I imagine he is probably right there tbh & in terms of just classic efforts his trajectory is there, but ain’t nobody f***ing with Ye man

    Ye is the greatest artist ever in the genre but purely from a rapper ability standpoint Kendrick is the better rapper

  • Nov 27, 2024
    WRF

    he unfortunately started slowing down like 3 months after he got a claim to the top

    <300k units. not built for being the goat

    WHY IS ALWAYS SALES WITH U KTT PEOPLE NOW! BACK IN THE DAY SALES TALK WOULD GET U CLOWNED .

  • Nov 27, 2024

    The best of his generation IMO but in terms of GOAT discussion, I think he’s valid for consideration

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    TheRocket64

    Ye is the greatest artist ever in the genre but purely from a rapper ability standpoint Kendrick is the better rapper

    he has alot more technical talent than ye for sure, hell he’s more gifted a writer to me to 99.9% of rappers, but Ye is as effective a lyricist as anyone with less conventional skill

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    humey

    he has alot more technical talent than ye for sure, hell he’s more gifted a writer to me to 99.9% of rappers, but Ye is as effective a lyricist as anyone with less conventional skill

    Ye can’t rap for s*** anymore, it’s sad

    It’s gotten noticeably worse

  • Nov 27, 2024
    humey

    he has alot more technical talent than ye for sure, hell he’s more gifted a writer to me to 99.9% of rappers, but Ye is as effective a lyricist as anyone with less conventional skill

    I agree

    The only problem with Ye is the fact that he always has a bunch of lyrical ghostwriters for every album

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    humey

    he has alot more technical talent than ye for sure, hell he’s more gifted a writer to me to 99.9% of rappers, but Ye is as effective a lyricist as anyone with less conventional skill

    PEAK Kanye for sure

    Post Pablo Ye though? nah. not as consistently.

  • Nov 27, 2024

    I think he was in contention with the goats after dropping two 10/10 classics back to back 10 years ago

  • Nov 27, 2024
    tomorrow volverse

    PEAK Kanye for sure

    Post Pablo Ye though? nah. not as consistently.

    yeah mostly referring to Kanye probably through to WTT here

  • Nov 27, 2024

    yeeaahh nawww

  • Nov 27, 2024
    Zero

    he really made that big 3 s*** look silly this year

  • Nov 27, 2024

    kanye is the goat, that's why it's not kendrick to the