rock won't come back until it's able to innovate/move past old sounds and that's never gonna happen

hip hop, rnb and pop all have a lot more room to innovate/change and grow in their sound

Yea I agree
But what I’m saying is pop isn’t clearly defined now in the same way it was pre 2013
It’s split into a ton of little streams of different sounds that I would all class as pop but there isn’t a clear distinctive sound of popular music

That popular music sound rn is Rap

This is peak pop YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT BUT ITS FACTS

The blueprint to music

real

good s*** @safe

it’s a topic that’s been discussed a handful of times on here previously regarding the impact of royals, so it was nice reading a write-up that really breaks down the shift that happened that year

guys when Safe says the “Death of Pop” he’s talking about how Royals essentially broke down the mental barriers what could and couldn’t be considered pop

it was the perfect storm, and the impact of that song becoming a hit is still felt today

it was the first domino that sent us to the result we have now, which is the charts being dominated by music that doesnt fit in the conventional “pop” concept that was previously dominant, hence “death of pop”

Exactly

It wasn’t what caused rap to gain in market share and it wasn’t the single catalyst of pops split

But it’s the perfect representation of that moment and how it along with other songs in the same vein bent genre and What was the dominant sound of pop while being enormously successful

Im not reading all this op you f***ing scum bag.. Jk good read. Its SAFE to say you did a good job.

Pop Music been dead since Migos went no 1

Plus we have rappers that have pop crossover appeal too, Travis, Drake, and Post come to mind

safe u know u could probably be making money off this if you aren’t already

RNB is probably gonna be the one. Brent Faiyaz slowly getting more popular by each day

too bad she fell off hard after that

That's what I've heard. I've had a couple of people tell me her follow up wasn't that good. I might listen to it this weekend if I don't have anything to do.

yeah you should check it for yourself. a lot of people really love that album, but as a huge fan of PH, i just don’t f*** with it. the whole album just feels like the audio form of an 11 y/o imagining what a party is like

I could never really mess with the fact that Lorde had the audacity to say Kanye and Cudi copied her set designs like 1. her entire career is a result of their music and 2. She was never even close to being the first one to come out with floating set deisgns

Really interesting thread. I know I’ll get clowned for even bringing it up but it’s interesting to see how Kpop fits into modern Pop too, seeing as the model for that is almost completely old school in how it’s based so much more off perfect star personas and merchandising similar to The Beatles in their earlier days.

I feel like Rap is more on a similar crossover path that Rock was on in the mainstream genre crossovers it’s having.