why would an adult male spend 7 hours on the phone with a boy?
WHY WHY WHY
KPOP
WHY
FRAUDSTER
Maybe he had a lot of s*** to say
Thanks to that oddball talking s*** more people will see this thread and the facts around MJs cases in my posts thus proving his innocence to those who aren’t aware yet.
Kpop never responds to hard questions. Pedo pan ass
Fire them lol.
Kpop never responds to hard questions. Pedo pan ass
Discman, every time you start bringing s*** up OP responds in great detail, putting far more effort in than someone acting in as bad of faith as you deserve. You don’t even ask questions, you just shout baseless platitudes and then when confronted with evidence, bring up something completely out of left field instead of replying to the points OP made, and continue moving the goal posts all while you lie and pretend OP hasn’t responded to every single piece of bullshit you bring up.
You are pathetic.
Discman, every time you start bringing s*** up OP responds in great detail, putting far more effort in than someone acting in as bad of faith as you deserve. You don’t even ask questions, you just shout baseless platitudes and then when confronted with evidence, bring up something completely out of left field instead of replying to the points OP made, and continue moving the goal posts all while you lie and pretend OP hasn’t responded to every single piece of bullshit you bring up.
You are pathetic.
Dreamweaver^^^
Discman, every time you start bringing s*** up OP responds in great detail, putting far more effort in than someone acting in as bad of faith as you deserve. You don’t even ask questions, you just shout baseless platitudes and then when confronted with evidence, bring up something completely out of left field instead of replying to the points OP made, and continue moving the goal posts all while you lie and pretend OP hasn’t responded to every single piece of bullshit you bring up.
You are pathetic.
Thank you bro, at least you see it.
Fire them lol.
Y WAS MJ MAKING 7 HR CALLS TO LIL BOYS?
Y DID MJ BUY SAFECHUCK JEWELRY?
Y DID MJ BOOK ROOMS WITH LITTLE BOYS?
WHAT IS IN IT 4 U? WHY DO U CARE ABOUT PEDO JACKSON'S PUBLIC IMAGE?
Y WAS MJ MAKING 7 HR CALLS TO LIL BOYS?
Y DID MJ BUY SAFECHUCK JEWELRY?
Y DID MJ BOOK ROOMS WITH LITTLE BOYS?
WHAT IS IN IT 4 U? WHY DO U CARE ABOUT PEDO JACKSON'S PUBLIC IMAGE?
All caps! Boy you mad.
Let's start, shall we.
1. Why was MJ making 7 hour calls to little boys?
Would love to know your source for this one.
2. Why did MJ buy Safechuck jewellery?
MJ bought many people many things. He was a well known generous man. MJ gifted Safechuck a medallion as mentioned in court documents. Safechuck in 2015 created an Etsy account looking for rings and jewellery, deleting it all recently once fans discovered the page. I've also proven above the ring scene was a re-shoot a year after the originals, using B Roll footage (all while Safechuck is so scarred he can barely hold them.. please)
MJ bought his friends gifts all the time. Of all ages. Would you suggest he was also grooming Chris Tucker when he gave him a TV for example?
3. Why did MJ Book rooms with little boys?
Proof needed for this one.
4. What's in it for me?
Well, I just think people should know the truth about the greatest entertainer of all time and his gift to the world should be enjoyed and not sullied by the claims of ambulance chasing charlatans.
So out of your 3 'bombshell' all caps questions, two have no source and one is trying to insinuate grooming because he brought gifts for a friend, like he did to all of his friends, of all ages.
Once again,
Y WAS MJ MAKING 7 HR CALLS TO LIL BOYS?
Y DID MJ BUY SAFECHUCK JEWELRY?
Y DID MJ BOOK ROOMS WITH LITTLE BOYS?
WHAT IS IN IT 4 U? WHY DO U CARE ABOUT PEDO JACKSON'S PUBLIC IMAGE?
There's no point arguing
Sleeping with little boys? House full of books filled with naked kids? These are apparently normal things for OP and MJ defenders
This thread is some kind of alternate universe
Also, @Rustydagod seeing as you love the Leaving Neverland actors, let me ask a few questions and see if you care to explain why Safechuck vividly described abuse at the 1989 Grammy's in LA when;
The 1989 Grammy's were not in LA
Jackson did not attend nor perform at the 1989 Grammy's
I will say however, the 1988 Grammy's were in LA on March 2nd.
But, Safechuck however also vividly described the first tale of abuse, which he says, took place in June 1988 in Paris on the Bad World Tour. So, which one is it?
He also claimed Jackson flew him and his mother out to see Phantom of the Opera in NY with Liza Minnelli in March of 1988, which was the 11th to be exact. He also tells us that he stayed with his mother the whole time.
Therefore, Safechuck's claim of being flown out to New York, alone, is demonstrably false. The Grammys in New York were not in 1989, but 1988. Safechuck was not alone in New York on the 11th with Jackson either, he was with his mother. He didn't sleep in Jackson's room, he slept with his mother. 'Ongoing sexual abuse' as he calls it, could not have taken place because his own story tells us it didn't start until June of 1988.
Just another lie from that laughable mockumentary you seem to cherish.
There's no point arguing
Sleeping with little boys? House full of books filled with naked kids? These are apparently normal things for OP and MJ defenders
This thread is some kind of alternate universe
The sleepovers have been addressed.
Jackson's library contained over 10,000 books and multiple raids of Neverland and his properties resulted in the prosecution cherry picking 2 art books which are in the National Library of Congress and were available on Amazon.
Hardly dark web s***, and hardly a 'house full of books filled with naked kids'. So, no, that's not normal for me, that's a flat out lie on your part.
You want to talk alternate universe? To believe the claims the abusers have made, you have to believe Michael Jackson had the ability to time travel.
Once again,
The sleepovers have been addressed.
Jackson's library contained over 10,000 books and multiple raids of Neverland and his properties resulted in the prosecution cherry picking 2 art books which are in the National Library of Congress and were available on Amazon.
Hardly dark web s***, and hardly a 'house full of books filled with naked kids'. So, no, that's not normal for me, that's a flat out lie on your part.
You want to talk alternate universe? To believe the claims the abusers have made, you have to believe Michael Jackson had the ability to time travel.
Once again,
Sure explain why he slept in beds with little boys
And 2? Try several.. I thought you knew everything about him?
Sure explain why he slept in beds with little boys
And 2? Try several.. I thought you knew everything about him?
Regarding the sleepovers; I don't condone it. I think it made him a very easy target for the ambulance chasers who did use it to accuse him. However, there is context to it and Jackson explained he would usually sleep on the floor & never ask them to join him in bed. The Arvizo's in LWMJ back up his claim, as do many others, including Mac Culkin's father. He did not see any sexual connotations to it. Most will automatically jump the conclusion it must mean sex. It was naive on Jackson's behalf.
There were more than 2 'art books' however most guilters try and claim the main 2 - Boys will be Boys as well as 'The Boy: A photographic essay'
3 were found in 1993, others found in 2003-2005's investigation.
1: 'The Boy: A photographic essay' - it was a gift from a fan.
2: 'Boys will be Boys' has an inscription from MJ which reads 'Look at the true spirit of happiness and joy in these boys’ faces. This is the spirit of boyhood, a life I never had and will always dream of. This is the life I want for my children, MJ.' - How sinister!
Containing photographs from the making of the movie, The Lord of the Flies.
3: 'Young Beauty' - never mentioned by the prosecution and they never told where it was found.
So let's go to the books found in 2003, shall we?
So far, we've had a gift from a fan, the making of Lord of the Flies and a book so insignificant the prosecution never once tried to use it (nor admit where they found it).
1: Rod McRae – Camp Cove, Photos of Sydney Men (2001) - Art book with artistic photographs of adult men.
2: Alexandre Dupouy – Scenes d’Interieur (2000) - Art book with nude grown women in sexually suggestive poses.
3: Starr OcKenga – Dressup: Playacts and Fantasies of Childhood (1978) - An art book from renowned photographer containing photo's of children playing dressup.
4: Dave Nestler – The Art of Dave Nestler: Wicked Intentions (2002) - nude book with animations of grown women
5: Kelly Klein – Underworld (1995) - photographs depicting the underwear of Kelly Klein, ex wife of Calvin Klein, among them are the Red Hot Chilli Peppers.
6: Jake Chapman , Dinos Chapman, Gillian Wearing, Tracey Emin – The Fourth Sex, Adolescent Extremes (2003) - a book depicting youth counter culture.
7: Pere Formiguera – Cronos (2000) - A book depicting subjects with photographs taken once a month for 10 years.
8: John Patrick Salisbury – Drew and Jimmy (1995) - two teenage boys in Rural Louisiana, shot by the lady who shot Alanis Morisette's first album cover. Confiscated because it showed them 'in swimwear'.
9: Rineke Dijkstra – Beach Portraits (2003) - people in swimwear.
10: Mayumi Lake – POO-chi (2002) - Art book depicting human armpits photographed to look suggestive.
So that's 13 books so far, none of which contain 'child p***ography' (which is a crime to possess), were gifts by fans, making of movies, had fully grown women in them etc. etc.
Nearly all of which were found in cardboard boxes in Jackson's storage. A real grasp at straws where Sneddon lied multiple times about where they were found and how these vague art books 'prove' Jackson was gay - ignoring his actual p*** collection.
Do you want me to go through the rest? Or is that enough for you?
F***in a man.
I bring a source you character assassinate immediately.
So wade Jimmy and the mothers don't count to u?
They all attest to mj sharing bedrooms with boys on tour.
You ignore evidence of grooming. The rings.
Safechuck said that mike talked to him on the phone for 7 hrs.
Not normal for a boy to adult male relationship.
K-pop for some reason you refuse to believe that a man who contributed great things to musical culture could be capable of doing what he did which was molesting and raping little boys and grooming them for months and years and doing it again and again and again