Should've given him hands with the glove on tbh
No cap lmao that’s one of my best friends that I’m still cool with to this day too which is the funny part, he was just being edgy but 6th grade me wasn’t havin it
It's an example of Jackson's generosity. I can dig out my original post and list hundreds more, if you'd like them.
I have been open minded. Each accusation is taken as a fresh, it would be ridiculous to go into it believing instantly these men are lying.
I've followed Wade Robson since 2013. He is lying.
It’s obvious you’re not open minded with that avi and username lol
It’s fine if you aren’t, you made up your mind
Meanwhile i find Jackson suspect regardless of whether they lied or not.
It’s obvious you’re not open minded with that avi and username lol
It’s fine if you aren’t, you made up your mind
Meanwhile i find Jackson suspect regardless of whether they lied or not.
This is me after those accusations. I began to like Jackson more once I found the truth to his accusers.
Come with some evidence then b**** boy
Hol up lemme pull up things people say and provide that as evidence since that’s what everyone has been doing in this thread
This is me after those accusations. I began to like Jackson more once I found the truth to his accusers.
The truth.
The worlds not black and white man.
There’s clearly more to this then either you or me could ever uncover.
Y’all still arguing over this lmao dude been dead for a decade. There will always be 2 sides when it comes to crime whether it’s all fake or true
Lmao if Jared from subway got caught with a book like that y'all wouldn't say it's innocent.
How could you even look at that book and then make the conclusion that that man was not a pedophile.? The book was written by a pedophile confirmed. And it's filled with sexually suggestive images of young boys. Your God Michael Jackson owned that book and it was in his home. Y'all are so blind disgusting
https://www.reddit.com/r/LeavingNeverlandHBO/comments/g8pve0/the_boy_a_photographic_essay/
one of the books found at the ranch... jesus save us
Wtf Mike this book nasty af
Wtf Mike this book nasty af
we got 'im. took me 24 pages, there is no defending that book.
we got 'im. took me 24 pages, there is no defending that book.
I haven’t clicked the link yet but is it the book that was given to Jackson by a fan or the ones from Amazon?
Edit: Yep it was the one gifted to Jackson by a fan in 1983
we got 'im. took me 24 pages, there is no defending that book.
I love how you are so insistent on proving yourself right
Wtf Mike this book nasty af
It was given to him by a fan (who wrote in the book) and is available on Amazon
It doesn’t “prove” anything
It was given to him by a fan (who wrote in the book) and is available on Amazon
It doesn’t “prove” anything
have you seen the book?
let me tell you something about that book.
that book is disgusting.
what kind of normal person would have that book?
and what kind of fan would give MJ a pedophile book?
another pedophile?
that's a pedophile book. no doubt about it.
i honestly wish i didn't click it. but your bullshit made me bring out the big guns.
you didn't just drink the mj koolaid, you drowned in it.
All i know is,
the fact that its MJ is problematic
People will defend him to the extreme because of his incredible musical legacy while also stating the notion that since he was so wealthy people would want that wealth therefore the lawsuits and allegations
I'm not 100% on either side.
It makes sense that someone would try to get at his money
But I also see the possibility of some of these parents being blinded by the fame and status and then leaving their kids alone with a man who was most likely mentally unstable in some ways due to his childhood and fame and other issues and insecurities.
It's definitely possible, especially given the peculiar life Jackson lived, that he committed these crimes, while simultaneously actually caring about children in another light, he really could have been warped that way,
It's also possible that these families wanted money and attention from Jackson's estate but... idk
The fact that the allegations are against one of the biggest music stars of all time make it so people put him on a god-like pedestal as if he could do no wrong. As if it couldn't be possible that he did these things.
I've seen the documentaries but I've also seen some of the proof or points "MJ Innocent" people have made, i still think its very possible he did that s***.
I feel like some people have gone clinically insane defending their idol against these allegations...
maybe thats not ur job to do...
might have to let it go some day
Let’s discuss this here I don’t want to derail the bowie thread with what I’m about to say
I read your first post about Chandler and you are simply wrong about his description of Jackson’s p****. The image you link in that post isn’t even the actual drawing. It’s never been released. Police describe the drawing as showing an “erect” p**** with discoloration. The drawing you linked in that post is a very short p**** that appears to be one color.
The drawing of Jackson’s p**** in your post came from a book by a journalist who was clearly intending to shock people, NOT Jordan himself
“Gutierrez claimed that he based his book on Jordan’s diary, however the Chandlers say that Jordan never kept a diary. A diary in which Jordan documented his abuse would have been very important evidence in any investigation against Jackson but no such evidence was ever produced. Again, the only person who ever claimed to have seen the diary was Gutierrez, a man with a very questionable credibility, yet his book was believed by the prosecutors, at least according to Maureen Orth.”
The drawing of Jackson’s p**** in your post came from a book by a journalist who was clearly intending to shock people, NOT Jordan himself
“Gutierrez claimed that he based his book on Jordan’s diary, however the Chandlers say that Jordan never kept a diary. A diary in which Jordan documented his abuse would have been very important evidence in any investigation against Jackson but no such evidence was ever produced. Again, the only person who ever claimed to have seen the diary was Gutierrez, a man with a very questionable credibility, yet his book was believed by the prosecutors, at least according to Maureen Orth.”
https://themichaeljacksonallegations.com/2016/12/26/victor-gutierrez-and-his-role-in-the-allegations-against-michael-jackson/
Yes, and that very same blog breaks down the claim the description was accurate.
TL:DR he claimed Jackson was circumcised, which is false.