Dirty

6y

Did they get money?

KingOfPop

6y

So because he was smart with business = must have been a pedophile too?

Dirty

6y

What? How is that what you took from my comment?

Dirty

6y

Idk man.... MJ was a noted shrewd businessman and very good at it

He was smart enough and everything to discuss multi-million dollar business deals but can’t see the things he’s doing with kids is wrong? I don’t buy that.

And yeah he didn’t get a normal childhood... that doesn’t excuse any of this behavior... he isn’t the only child superstar ever

KingOfPop

6y

No because his lawsuit was thrown out of court but..

Robson has set up fake charities accepting no less than $250 though as well as dance video subscriptions (which drop in price every week)

He was more than likely paid for LN too but this will never be admitted

Kossisko

6y

You can be good at business and still be unaware socially.

Autistic people can be genius in certain respects and awful socially. Intelligence isn't linear.

KingOfPop

6y

Oprah and Gayle screened Leaving Neverland on David Geffen's yacht for her birthday. Who spends their birthday watching pedo fiction movies?

Glad to see backlash against them after the Kobe behaviour at least.

KingOfPop

6y

''He was smart enough and everything to discuss multi-million dollar business deals but can’t see the things he’s doing with kids is wrong? I don’t buy that.''

You literally said he can do business deals so must realise his behaviour with children is wrong. There's no correlation there at all.

Dirty

6y

Fair enough but was MJ autistic?

Kossisko

6y

The brains weird mane. Abuse from a young age warps ur s*** in a lot of ways. MJ probably wasn't autistic but autism, PTSD, anxiety, ADHD and a bunch of other disorders share commonalities. It's not too far fetched to say that he really wasn't aware of how this s*** looked from an outsider's perspective given his weird ass mental state

Mission

6y

Not saying if he’s innocent or not, but nobody can deny that he had inappropriate relationships with children.

Swope

6y

i place more blame on the parents who were just looking for a payday
why the f*** would you leave your child with anybody, strip celebrity status away from it
would you leave your kid with a stranger

Dirty

6y

Yeah that’s fair.... the parents definitely deserve some blame... but that doesn’t excuse MJ for acting the way he did

KingOfPop

6y

Long requested part 2 of my MJ is innocent series.

Leaving Neverland. 4 hours. 2 parts. 2 men who claim Jackson molested them for years, in graphic detail. No defence. No outside opinion.

No mention of their court filed lawsuits which were thrown out of court either.

So let’s start with Wade Robson, as he filed the claim first, in 2013 after ‘realising’ he was abused. Wade’s story has constantly changed in the 6 years of his claim.

LIE #1 - He didn’t file the creditors claim in time, because he did not know Michael Jackson had an Estate.
Truth - Wade Robson did an interview in 2011 about working with the Michael Jackson Estate for the Cirque Du Soleil tribute show, ‘Immortal’.

He pulled out due to directing commitments. These fell through and through court proceedings an email was discovered of him begging for the job back (https://leavingneverlandfacts.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Wade-Email-to-Cirque-Wanting-MJ-Show-Badly-532x1024.jpg)

Yet in 2013, he claimed he didn’t file his creditors claim in the 60 days required from realising abuse (May 2012) he didn’t know Michael Jackson had an Estate. https://themichaeljacksonallegationsblog.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/2013-04-30-robson-declaration.pdf - See paragraph 27

LIE #2: MJ set up companies and events to find and groom children.

Truth: Robson met MJ in 1987, after winning a dance competition Wade claims was set up by MJs companies to recruit and groom children - namely MJJ Ventures, which didn’t exist at the time. Truth is that it was set up by Target, Pepsi and CBS Records. Robson knew this.

Robson testified as such in 2005. https://themichaeljacksonallegationsblog.files.wordpress.com/2016/12/court-transcripts.zip

Wade’s own mother admitted that after 1987, they had no contact with Jackson until 1990 after several letters and managing to contact his assistant. https://themichaeljacksonallegationsblog.files.wordpress.com/2018/05/joy-robson-deposition-extracts.pdf

For someone so intent on finding children and molesting them who ran ‘the most sophisticated child s***ring of all time’, Jackson did an awful job at this by having no contact with Wade for 3 years.

Norma Steikos, Jackson's assistant, was behind this, yet had no mention in Leaving Neverland. Why? She is still alive and can sue for defamation. https://themichaeljacksonallegationsblog.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/wade-robson-deposition-extracts.pdf

LIE #3: ‘I got too old, and was replaced by Mac Culkin’
Truth: Mac Culkin is 2 years older than Wade Robson and has always maintained Jackson did nothing. Simple.

LIE #4: The memories are my own, this is my tale of abuse.
TRUTH: Wade concocted his tales of abuse by asking his mother a string of questions seen in emails Robson tried to hide from the court - https://themichaeljacksonallegationsblog.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/2016-12-27-robsonemailswatermark.pdf

Robson also emailed himself websites like MJFacts, which is a site dedicated to ‘proof’ Jackson was a serial child abuser in order to try and build his story.

Robson admits to adding parts to this book draft as the story grows https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0bpvwqXgAIoozo?format=png&name=small

These emails, Wade tried to hide from the court, by the way.

LIE #5: ‘I was abused for the first time while my family were at the Grand Canyon
Truth: Wade Robson’s lie was proven as just that, a lie, by his own Mother. https://www.express.co.uk/entertainment/music/1107378/Michael-Jackson-Leaving-Neverland-accuser-LIES-Wade-Robson-court-truth-child-abuse

Here is the Leaving Neverland clip of this lie: https://twitter.com/LalaRou92/status/1116243792032686082?s=20

September 2016, Wade graphically describes the ‘abuse’ - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxxL_bgX4AAn33x?format=jpg&name=900x900

Robson himself however admitted this lie, when caught out because his book drafts conflicted his claims. Nothing happened on those nights at Neverland. When pressed on it, he simply said ‘I don’t really remember’ https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxxMTV1WkAELarO?format=jpg&name=small

The book draft in question - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxxMsE0WoAEjGVI?format=jpg&name=small

LIE #6: ‘I never wanted to testify in 2005 and only did because I received a subpoena (ignoring the fact he didn’t think he was abused or saw anything wrong with his friendship until 2012)
Truth: No subpoena exists.

Wade Robson was broke. In 2011 he sold his Michael collection to Julien’s Auctions, who sold it as ‘The Wade Robson Collection:
https://twitter.com/santikapowski/status/1100828209661333504/photo/1

Wade’s brother admitted this was a concern in court- https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxxJ314W0AEOXEU?format=jpg&name=900x900

Here is Wade praising Michael Jackson in July 2012. He was shopping the book about the ‘abuse’ during this time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWazdCJxTFI&feature=emb_title

LIE #7 - Michael would groom us and sent letters.
Truth: Jackson sent letters to everyone. Here is one to his costume designer - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0rDlkbWoAIRTQO?format=jpg&name=medium
The malicious intent to describe this as ‘grooming’ is absurd - Jackson wrote these to anyone, any age.

Using this logic, Jackson tried to groom Weird Al Yankovic too - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D0rEcRRXcAA9BVI?format=png&name=small

LIE #8 - Jackson told us women were evil because he wanted us to himself.
Truth - Wade had an 8 year relationship with Jackson’s cousin, as Jackson set them up because Wade thought she was cute. https://twitter.com/BJackson82/status/1095067045454966784

LIE #9 - No one was allowed entry into Michael Jackson’s room so he could molest me.
Truth - Robson painted a picture that Jackson’s room was off limits. It was a safe space for him to molest as he pleased - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxxPw1NX4AAtksm?format=jpg&name=900x900

Yet, he claims Blanca Francia (MJs maid - who’s been discussed as a opportunist liar before) had a key to get in the room. This was said so he could defend his claim Blanca saw Jackson act inappropriately. Which one is it?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxxP9fdXQAIUPXF?format=jpg&name=900x900

LIE #10 - Jackson had alarms and top security measures to hide his abuse.
Truth - Well, the most famous man on the planet had security in his house. No s***.

And, Robson claimed the abuse happened under his mothers nose, in trailers, anywhere Jackson and Robson were together - https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DxxTNJgW0AEzrDn?format=jpg&name=small

For someone so intent on molesting Robson but doing it so secretively with the alarms who built an entire house as a save haven for molestation, he wasn’t very good at that - doing so in open air with Wade's own mother next door?

Which one is it? The super secretive predator or the s***crazed abuser who couldn't contain his urges?

From 1993 until 2012, Wade Robson’s story and defence of Michael Jackson never changed, even when heavily scrutinised and pushed in court.

However after 2013, his story has changed many, many times and his lies have been caught out each time.

TL:DR Wade Robson is a narcissist and a proven liar. It's hard to compress 6 years worth of lies, as his story has changed so many times, even weeks before Leaving Neverland was filmed, but this gives you the idea.

Organization

6y

No explanation as to why that Jordie Chandler knew and could descibe the shape / bithmarks of MJ's p**** to the tee, huh?

MJ deniers really are mentally deranged.

Dirty

6y

I didn’t say cause he’s a good businessman that means he was a pedophile

I just don’t buy that he couldn’t see what he was doing

KingOfPop

6y

Mentally deranged?! Please.

Part 1 of this thread tore the Chandler's to pieces. Including proof your claim regarding Jackson's genitalia was accurately described.

Read: https://ktt2.com/michael-jackson-guilters-explain-this-part-1-27203

I hope reading the actual facts opens your mind to the extortion Jackson suffered.

Organization

6y

Lmao.. Delusional.. If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, then im sorry to break the news donny..

What kind of innocent man settles out of court for an accusation like that? What kind of innocent man gets accused +5 times that he behaved inappropriately with boys. What kind of innocent man is addicted to sleeping with boys within a specific age range in his bed?

Funny how he never slept with ugly and/or fat boys in his bed too? They always had to fit his certain criteria to be allowed in his bed.

His own sister was out in interviews and calling him the F word... He clearly was sexually attracted to boys

KingOfPop

6y

Delusional? You've literally just ignored proof. You can spin whatever you want, however you want but PROOF does not lie.

The lie about the settlement is in there too.

It's 2020. Wake up.

KingOfPop

6y

Mentally deranged?! Please.

Part 1 of this thread tore the Chandler's to pieces. Including proof your claim regarding Jackson's genitalia was accurately described.

Read: https://ktt2.com/michael-jackson-guilters-explain-this-part-1-27203

I hope reading the actual facts opens your mind to the extortion Jackson suffered.