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  • lil ufo 🛸
    Feb 17
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    monza sp1 x

    is it true that your perspective changes when you have them?

    i've heard a bunch of people who never wanted kids say everything changed when they saw them for the first time

    it changes because you see yourself forced to do that, but that doesn't work for everyone unfortunately, that's why we shouldn't bring children with the objective of changing ourselves

  • monza sp1 x

    is it true that your perspective changes when you have them?

    i've heard a bunch of people who never wanted kids say everything changed when they saw them for the first time

    Yes

  • slime wrld

    @op
    none of this is going to get better, this isn’t a doomer narrative this is just where we are headed

    anti-aging d**** & reproductive selection (gene modifications)
    science is about to make everything about our biology and how we look at ourselves change i wouldn’t even worry about this any longer lmfao

    Yea im not a expert on folicle stem cell niche maturation/renewal but from what i do know we dont have the knowledge or d**** to improve female reproductive aging yet, but itll probably start to become a thing in a decade or 2

  • Feb 17
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    lil ufo

    well obviously they BECOME that because you have no choice unless you're a heartless mf that will abandon their child at an orphanage

    it's just coping with your choices, there's nothing beautiful about it unless we ourselves give them that purpose, but it all depends on us to see it that way, and most of the times this is done as a form of coping with our new reality, we convince ourselves that this is beautiful because we cannot do the opposite anymore, or doing that will affect negatively upon our life

    This is projection and you’re wrong, respectfully

    Ironically enough, I believe that this mentality in itself is closer to coping

  • Feb 17
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    lil ufo

    it changes because you see yourself forced to do that, but that doesn't work for everyone unfortunately, that's why we shouldn't bring children with the objective of changing ourselves

    Again, you’re wrong on this. Do you have kids?

  • tomorrow volverse

    It the past it was normal for Women
    Not for Men

    Men would run their money up about the same age that we do now, mid 30s to 40s. Then they would marry an 18-23 year old that could pop out healthy babies and be reasonably happy with your income, and the woman wouldn’t have to work

    Feminsm and women in the workforce has ended that way of thinking, women are too independent to rely on a man for money, which creates this problem

    this makes a lot of sense, i sorta think idk like women and ppl in general shouldnt be forced to be super productive, the real issue is the lack of wage growth, which forces women to work to sustain a family

  • lil ufo 🛸
    Feb 17
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    Cherrywine1

    Again, you’re wrong on this. Do you have kids?

    of course not

  • lil ufo

    also f*** that I ain't providing the government with new slaves

    This is real too. The issue of demographic collapse is largely just economic, in other ways it could be a good thing, but they wanna up the birth rate to stimulate the economy mainly

  • lil ufo 🛸
    Feb 17
    Cherrywine1

    This is projection and you’re wrong, respectfully

    Ironically enough, I believe that this mentality in itself is closer to coping

    idk this is my uneducated opinion

  • Feb 17
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    monza sp1 x

    is it true that your perspective changes when you have them?

    i've heard a bunch of people who never wanted kids say everything changed when they saw them for the first time

    I've always wanted kids so was never really "worried" about that

    I actually expected my mindset to change a lot more than it actually did, I still feel like myself but now I get to see and help a little person that is a combination of me and the love of my life grow up into their own person. Its an incredible feeling.

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    lil ufo

    of course not

    You couldn’t possibly know what it’s like to be a parent without kids of your own. It’s hard to fathom if you don’t have kids yourself, but genuine love for your own children is not some “cope” that we force on ourselves. That’s just apart of your worldview

    Your loves for your kids comes naturally if you’re a normal, healthy minded person

  • lil ufo 🛸
    Feb 17
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    Cherrywine1
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    You couldn’t possibly know what it’s like to be a parent without kids of your own. It’s hard to fathom if you don’t have kids yourself, but genuine love for your own children is not some “cope” that we force on ourselves. That’s just apart of your worldview

    Your loves for your kids comes naturally if you’re a normal, healthy minded person

    genuine love is not cope, I'm not generalizing here, I was answering in the context of 'having a child changes yourself' because someone asked about 'it changes you after having a child?'

  • Feb 17
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    Cherrywine1

    You couldn’t possibly know what it’s like to be a parent without kids of your own. It’s hard to fathom if you don’t have kids yourself, but genuine love for your own children is not some “cope” that we force on ourselves. That’s just apart of your worldview

    Your loves for your kids comes naturally if you’re a normal, healthy minded person

    Deadbeat Dads everywhere disagree

  • Feb 17
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    Your Chinese Spy

    Deadbeat Dads everywhere disagree

    Read the last sentence

  • Feb 17
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    Cherrywine1

    Read the last sentence

    Yeah you edited that in after.

  • Feb 17
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    lil ufo

    genuine love is not cope, I'm not generalizing here, I was answering in the context of 'having a child changes yourself' because someone asked about 'it changes you after having a child?'

    I see what you’re saying. Still hard disagree though. It’s more of an honor than a “cope” imo

  • Slept On

    there's a documentary about this

    haha so epic bro, I’ll fry up so bacon to that. What’s your Reddit? I’d love to send you some gold

  • Your Chinese Spy

    Yeah you edited that in after.

    Yup, because I expected that reply

  • Feb 17
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    its really not that hard for a woman in her 30s to carry a perfectly healthy child

  • HURRY UP K DOG

    I've always wanted kids so was never really "worried" about that

    I actually expected my mindset to change a lot more than it actually did, I still feel like myself but now I get to see and help a little person that is a combination of me and the love of my life grow up into their own person. Its an incredible feeling.

    Word, that's dope

  • lil ufo 🛸
    Feb 17
    Cherrywine1

    I see what you’re saying. Still hard disagree though. It’s more of an honor than a “cope” imo

    its whatever you want it to be, that's why for you it can become an honor and for some it can become a burden

    most people are on auto-pilot and their mind just automatically protects them from bigger emotional damage, making them believe reproduction is the answer to their long-searched purpose in life

    this is again just my understanding, I'm not saying this as a universal truth

  • tomorrow volverse

    It the past it was normal for Women
    Not for Men

    Men would run their money up about the same age that we do now, mid 30s to 40s. Then they would marry an 18-23 year old that could pop out healthy babies and be reasonably happy with your income, and the woman wouldn’t have to work

    Feminsm and women in the workforce has ended that way of thinking, women are too independent to rely on a man for money, which creates this problem

    Good. F*** men

  • I want to have as many baby mommas as possible

  • plants 🌻
    Feb 17
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    I think the honorable thing for our species to do is deny our programming, stop reproducing, walk hand in hand into extinction, one last midnight, brothers and sisters opting out of a raw deal.

  • Snowboy

    its really not that hard for a woman in her 30s to carry a perfectly healthy child

    Yea 30s is not bad at all, its probably more or less as safe as the 20s, but once early 40s hit then its not nearly as safe