Jul 10, 2020·editedIf you want the best deals, definitely.
If you sign too early, you end up being under the control of the label more. Look at people like Sky Ferreira, Charli XCX, Frank Ocean (etc.); you end up getting f***ed/shelved later on in your career, especially if you don’t sell.
Jul 10, 2020·1 replyunionize the music industry ! let ppl own their masters all the time, no bs
- Jul 10, 2020nxtlvl
unionize the music industry ! let ppl own their masters all the time, no bs
Will never happen, unfortunately
- Jul 10, 2020·edited·1 reply
i mean there’s more than just dropping music or touring to it lol
writing for others, performances on other albums, feats, working with themes for games or movies or any media, etc.. - Jul 10, 2020ithaka
i mean there’s more than just dropping music or touring to it lol
writing for others, performances on other albums, feats, working with themes for games or movies or any media, etc..This is true, but you don’t just get those types of offers until you’re a bit more established
Jul 10, 2020·edited·2 repliesGotta set realistic goals and know what you're in for. Like if you're making very experimental music don't expect to sell out stadiums. If you're in an oversaturated genre don't expect to stand out easily. But first and foremost, get your priorities straight. For example if your priority is having fun with the music then don't stress the commercial aspect too much, hell it can just be a fun hobby on the side and not a career.
Musician hardships?
Worst case scenario would be if you just hop on the trends your Label Execs tells you to, but even then you knew what you were doing when you made that deal with the devil and you still get a fat check so nobody cares.
The only real drawbacks I see about being a popular musician is the public scrutiny and lack of privacy and private life, which can actually be pretty tough on the mental.
I see people often that having money strips people of the everyday hardships of being a human, and while I'm not crying over a rapper having to fly 1st class instead of a jet, I don't know why it's so hard for some people to understand that while money will pay your debts and medical bills, it won't do things like mourn a loved one or heal your anxiety.
The people in the thread on about "hurr durr you should only be doing it for the art" are dumb. From that logic any desire for your music to be experienced by others is steeped in greed/vanity and means you're not a "true artist." Most artists don't make art solely for the sake of making art, and making art with a variety of goals does not impact the quality nor mean you don't enjoy the process. As crazy of an idea it may seem, you can enjoy making art AND aspire to make a living off it.
- Jul 10, 2020·edited·1 replythe reds
Gotta set realistic goals and know what you're in for. Like if you're making very experimental music don't expect to sell out stadiums. If you're in an oversaturated genre don't expect to stand out easily. But first and foremost, get your priorities straight. For example if your priority is having fun with the music then don't stress the commercial aspect too much, hell it can just be a fun hobby on the side and not a career.
Musician hardships?
Worst case scenario would be if you just hop on the trends your Label Execs tells you to, but even then you knew what you were doing when you made that deal with the devil and you still get a fat check so nobody cares.
The only real drawbacks I see about being a popular musician is the public scrutiny and lack of privacy and private life, which can actually be pretty tough on the mental.
I see people often that having money strips people of the everyday hardships of being a human, and while I'm not crying over a rapper having to fly 1st class instead of a jet, I don't know why it's so hard for some people to understand that while money will pay your debts and medical bills, it won't do things like mourn a loved one or heal your anxiety.
The people in the thread on about "hurr durr you should only be doing it for the art" are dumb. From that logic any desire for your music to be experienced by others is steeped in greed/vanity and means you're not a "true artist." Most artists don't make art solely for the sake of making art, and making art with a variety of goals does not impact the quality nor mean you don't enjoy the process. As crazy of an idea it may seem, you can enjoy making art AND aspire to make a living off it.
Perfect comment, couldn’t have said it better.
And having goals is what makes great art! No one will have any incentive to improve, or make good/great music, if there isn’t a purpose behind it. If you’re making music “just for fun”, why the f*** would you even care if it’s listenable?
Jul 10, 2020the redsGotta set realistic goals and know what you're in for. Like if you're making very experimental music don't expect to sell out stadiums. If you're in an oversaturated genre don't expect to stand out easily. But first and foremost, get your priorities straight. For example if your priority is having fun with the music then don't stress the commercial aspect too much, hell it can just be a fun hobby on the side and not a career.
Musician hardships?
Worst case scenario would be if you just hop on the trends your Label Execs tells you to, but even then you knew what you were doing when you made that deal with the devil and you still get a fat check so nobody cares.
The only real drawbacks I see about being a popular musician is the public scrutiny and lack of privacy and private life, which can actually be pretty tough on the mental.
I see people often that having money strips people of the everyday hardships of being a human, and while I'm not crying over a rapper having to fly 1st class instead of a jet, I don't know why it's so hard for some people to understand that while money will pay your debts and medical bills, it won't do things like mourn a loved one or heal your anxiety.
The people in the thread on about "hurr durr you should only be doing it for the art" are dumb. From that logic any desire for your music to be experienced by others is steeped in greed/vanity and means you're not a "true artist." Most artists don't make art solely for the sake of making art, and making art with a variety of goals does not impact the quality nor mean you don't enjoy the process. As crazy of an idea it may seem, you can enjoy making art AND aspire to make a living off it.
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Jul 10, 2020!https://youtu.be/cIu-APGihhE
JRWatch this doc
Good looks on the rec this is a great watch
- Jul 10, 2020·1 replyRetired Artist
Perfect comment, couldn’t have said it better.
And having goals is what makes great art! No one will have any incentive to improve, or make good/great music, if there isn’t a purpose behind it. If you’re making music “just for fun”, why the f*** would you even care if it’s listenable?
Which is why I don't really believe mainstream musicians saying they only do it for fun. If you put in all the behind the scenes work you must care about more than that. Nothing wrong with either doing it just for fun or doing it for a combination of that and something else but I just don't like reductionists and hypocrites
Jul 10, 2020·1 replyidk11Ok being a failed musician would be WOAT but those that can actually live decently off it would be awesome
i mean is it really failure when most people in the world will never achieve what people think is the only success?
Even to get to the height of someone like big Krit, who most people can't recognize walking down the street is extremely rare, let alone all these kids thinking they'll be the next drake or post malone.- Jul 10, 2020whippet volverse
i mean is it really failure when most people in the world will never achieve what people think is the only success?
Even to get to the height of someone like big Krit, who most people can't recognize walking down the street is extremely rare, let alone all these kids thinking they'll be the next drake or post malone.When i say failed i mean the ones who dont even pop off and get shelved by their label. Krit is successful af
- Jul 10, 2020Retired Artist· edited
Men I’m watching that “Adult Rappers” documentary and s*** gets real at the time stamp 27:00
1000 real fans requires promotion to obtain them. It’s f***ing HARD to get 1000 true and devouted fans
agreed with obtaining 1000 true fans. nobody gives a f*** about your craft. whether it's music or podcast etc.
- Jul 10, 2020·1 reply!https://youtu.be/cIu-APGihhEJR
Watch this doc
s*** is depressing. i'm not even a
rapper but just as a creative person in general this is probably every rapper's worst nightmare and it happens to almost all of them that don't quit at a young age - Jul 10, 2020·editedwhippet volverse
s*** is depressing. i'm not even a
rapper but just as a creative person in general this is probably every rapper's worst nightmare and it happens to almost all of them that don't quit at a young ageS*** is sad as f***. And, the funny thing is, I won't know (or care) about this s*** if I didn't venture into music making myself.
- Jul 10, 2020the reds
Which is why I don't really believe mainstream musicians saying they only do it for fun. If you put in all the behind the scenes work you must care about more than that. Nothing wrong with either doing it just for fun or doing it for a combination of that and something else but I just don't like reductionists and hypocrites
Most mainstream musicians (not just rappers) are professional cappers