you're onto sumn...

You wanna make it right? You wanna be big, like Tyler? Like frank? Put em on.

are you like stupid

“Pastel core hip-hop”

Bro fr

Kevins probably pissed he didn't get to sell BH socks at Zumiez for a decade f*** the indie cred

Honestly it’s interesting how watered down the term “indie” has become to the point it just really denotes an aesthetic

im not invested in this topic at all but comparing sales in the streaming era to 50 mf cent is v uninformed my guy

tyler found kevin’s music and liked it

he connected kevin w clancy and ge started managing him around american boyfriend

then he also started managing bh

brother woke up in august 2025 and made a brockhampton industry plant thread

Lotta these early-mid 2010s acts that frequently flexed that "I'm independent!" s*** are going to be exposed for having the backing of pretty well known and respected A&Rs, execs, and managers of other successful acts since they're inception.

Chance the Rapper is one who was always corny as f*** to me doing that "I'm independent! I did it all on my own!" bullshit. Nigga your dad was literally the personal assistant of Barack Obama when he was a senator and then president of the US. You know how much f***in access that grants you? Knock it off man lmao

it's not too crazy but always interesting to read these things i think i might have heard about chris clancy at some point but never made the connection until now

These are the ugliest popular vans lowkey

thats how i feel

SIX SEVEEEEEEEN

T pain said it cost up to 200k to break one song.

When folks ask why certain songs from certain indie artists that sound like hit singles. That should blow up like a hit single. But end up not?

Yeah man. The industry is jokes lol.

That dad thing doesnt really do much for you musically but his manager invested MILLIONS in him did a lot for him. It’s artists right now that dont got millions invested in themselves

I don’t even care

Real “independent” artists dont get playlisted.

This is why whoever decided to coin them new rage niggas “underground” was a smart mischievous cracker. AK and all these platforms bigging up these abusive tweakers but they underground?

kevin already had buzz and was opening for the neighbourhood. whatever group he was gonna associate with was prob gonna become somewhat successful.

the brockhampton meme is still massive

lowkey ktt should start their own managing firm

let's talk about 2hollis and his mom

I don't know man, I feel like having very close ties to a US senator and president who has been welcomed into the hip-hop culture (first Black president) will be able to get you into rooms with very good agents, managers, industry people in general.

Truthfully Chance being a plant never bothered me. It's the constant flex of "I'm independent! I did this all myself! I brought mixtapes back!" just came off as corny. Especially with how hard it is for artists really doing it on their own out here.

as somebody who watched kevin’s career from 2011 til now

nothing about the rise of brockhampton was overnight or manufactured, it was just well executed.

the clancys managed him as a solo artist first and he dropped ambf under empire. that created a momentum that he rolled into saturation with.

they never pretended he didn’t have actual mentors and a team behind him, the clancys are among the best. but he was still indie and didn’t have a major label budget, hence why everything was created diy from the music to mixing to videos and marketing.

this is actually a pretty standard situation for most indie rap acts that blew in the blog era (great manager, deal with indie label / distributor, strong marketing)