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  • Oct 16, 2020

    For thousands of years humans lived in communal societies that where all people contributed to the well being of the community.
    However with the rise of land barons kings etc the people who had once worked together for the benefit of each other were now being subjugated by a few. Some were serfs and slaves who had no rights and were the property of these few and who gained no benefit from their labor. Those who were granted freedoms were still subject to taxation to land that was now owned by these few while having to work for the wages decided by this new ruling class.
    So what is the solution? An eventual return to communal living. The farms and mines where men and women slave away for scraps. The office jobs where human creativity is stifled and we are forced to follow orders from wealthy old men who only desire profit. The minimum wage workers who can barely survive within our society and the homeless. We the people must band together in order to restore ourselves to a place where we once thrived. Instead of begging and relying on a ruling class to fulfill our needs we need to band together as a people to establish a society that is self sufficient and serves all people. Direct democracy where the community is actively involved in how it is governed and the defense of the community is undertaken by members of said community (preferably women). These responsibilities will be undertaken by committees who are made up of members the community and are voted out periodically so that no one can gain too much power. I envision a committee for Defense,Education,Work,Youth,Women and the Social Committee. I plan on expanding on this idea in future threads have a nice day.

    TLDR: We as a society should get rid of the nation state and operate based on the needs of individual communities

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    You may want to hit a TLDR homie bc you know how people are on here

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    Jbreezyondeck

    You may want to hit a TLDR homie bc you know how people are on here

    just added that thanks man

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    i should've put this in politics dammit

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    Faygo

    just added that thanks man

    Also to your point I understand where you’re coming from but I feel as if we’ve became too connected as a society to move to a smaller ideology of community. It definitely has its benefits as you state tho

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    im happy for you or sorry that happened

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    There are too many people on the planet to go back to communal living imo. Billions of people on the planet has led to our overreliance on mass production. The generalization of the workforce has also led to a decrease in skilled labor.

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    Pedro

    There are too many people on the planet to go back to communal living imo. Billions of people on the planet has led to our overreliance on mass production. The generalization of the workforce has also led to a decrease in skilled labor.

    explain this in further detail to me please

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    Jbreezyondeck

    Also to your point I understand where you’re coming from but I feel as if we’ve became too connected as a society to move to a smaller ideology of community. It definitely has its benefits as you state tho

    the communes can interact and work with each other but what i envision is that they are governed by each individual community

  • Oct 16, 2020

    There is no chance that something like this would survive for long without something like a “state” emerging again. Need for power is in human nature

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    Stopped reading at “preferably women”

    Good luck with that chief

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    Mike22

    Stopped reading at “preferably women”

    Good luck with that chief

    explain

  • Oct 17, 2020
    Faygo

    explain this in further detail to me please

    he is essentially saying this is the easiest time to be alive ever (assuming you are american), and this has produced people who are profoundly deficient in a majority of important skills needed for your idea to work properly. And he is correct. As for his first point, it is pretty self-explanatory

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    Elaborate on a committee for women

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    You right family

    Thanks to the rise of these few elites they’ve managed to plant it in the heads of people that people are naturally selfish...Bullshit regurgitated by many who defend capitalism.

  • Oct 17, 2020

    The world is just too globalized my dude. Aspects of communal living can be integrated in society, but such drastic change will never happen. Globalization is moving faster every day.

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    KOLLAPS

    Elaborate on a committee for women

    a group for womens rights and issues

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    not my ideal situation tbh, I don’t feel like farming and doing handy work and always needing to be ready to help other people

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    and also, wouldnt this mean, we will just be working to survive still anyway? just in a more physically demanding way?

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    They never had communist communities tho if thats what you're implying

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    hot pancakes

    and also, wouldnt this mean, we will just be working to survive still anyway? just in a more physically demanding way?

    the point of existence fir any species is survival this just ensures that it is done in a sustainable manner.
    One would find joy in their work knowing that it directly benefits them and their society and knowing that they have true say in how things are done.

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    Faygo

    the point of existence fir any species is survival this just ensures that it is done in a sustainable manner.
    One would find joy in their work knowing that it directly benefits them and their society and knowing that they have true say in how things are done.

    I think that’s more of a preference thing tbh, for example, I prefer being able to work for the day, then come home and unwind with luxuries I have purchased thanks to mass production and innovation

    It’s nice to come home, sit on the couch, play video games with the latest technology, watch tv, drink some beer, hang with friends, etc

    I don’t think many people in today’s day and age really care to gather all the time and vote / decide on mundane things that could possibly benefit the community, when they could just relax and work on hobbies, do some leisurely activities, etc instead

    Humans have just evolved past the point of needing to do any type of communal work thanks to automation, innovation, and plain old evolution

    For better or for worse, we have become lazier due to our luxuries, and while it’s not the best thing for humanity, it’s not the worst thing either

    As a whole, we are able to work on creativity, hobbies, etc more than we ever have been able to before, specially because we don’t have to work tedious tasks like community planning, farming, etc to survive.

    I don’t think many people would want to regress back to that

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    Faygo

    a group for womens rights and issues

    Idk why singling out women is important tho why not all human issues?

    Cuz of patriarchal history? Genuinely curious what led you to think of that idea

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    gesufaleg

    You right family

    Thanks to the rise of these few elites they’ve managed to plant it in the heads of people that people are naturally selfish...Bullshit regurgitated by many who defend capitalism.

    At a certain point it becomes natural tho lol

    Sure capitalism isn’t our inherent human nature like 2,000 years ago

    It is now

  • Oct 17, 2020
    hot pancakes

    I think that’s more of a preference thing tbh, for example, I prefer being able to work for the day, then come home and unwind with luxuries I have purchased thanks to mass production and innovation

    It’s nice to come home, sit on the couch, play video games with the latest technology, watch tv, drink some beer, hang with friends, etc

    I don’t think many people in today’s day and age really care to gather all the time and vote / decide on mundane things that could possibly benefit the community, when they could just relax and work on hobbies, do some leisurely activities, etc instead

    Humans have just evolved past the point of needing to do any type of communal work thanks to automation, innovation, and plain old evolution

    For better or for worse, we have become lazier due to our luxuries, and while it’s not the best thing for humanity, it’s not the worst thing either

    As a whole, we are able to work on creativity, hobbies, etc more than we ever have been able to before, specially because we don’t have to work tedious tasks like community planning, farming, etc to survive.

    I don’t think many people would want to regress back to that

    You’re selfish for not wanting to spend your whole day working and then having no other form of entertainment besides books

    How dare you want money being spent on producing luxury goods when there are people STARVING