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  • Jul 2, 2020
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    KOLLAPS

    Oh yeah Meg is 100% hotter. The issue I find with these ladies is, are we just looking for a Nicki replacement? I’m not trynna disrespect Meg or discredit her art at all, but just like with Cardi, it’s easy to fall in love with a familiar face. Even Doja Cat got so much attention and I think it comes down to: if you’re not thick your fanbase won’t be overfilled with hyper-sexualized men who don’t actually care about your art. This is good and bad cuz it weaves out fake fans but also brings less attention to these girls, so people like a Rico Nasty who was right next to Meg on the XXL cover isn’t getting nearly the same amount of attention. The reason I point this out is because I’m skeptical of how long Meg’s reign will last, and if she’ll actually try to solidify herself as the good artist I know she sees herself as, or follow the Cardi path of embracing a social media personality? Cardi will never have the same respect from Hip-Hop as Nicki does, writers or not, because her music just isn’t as good as Nicki’s. Meg on the other hand actually seems to be putting creative effort into her artistry so perhaps she’ll able to do what Cardi couldn’t and really snag the throne from Nicki.

    Meg's in a different league to Cardi to me, vocally, writing and she has way more of a musical identity/sound.

    Hip hop viewed Cardi as an entertainer I think, Meg does have a lot more artistic credibility.

    I love Rico, but do you think that part of it is because the music and everything about her isn't as mainstream? Like Doja and Meg have had some very mainstream songs to help them break through.

    I think if Meg takes over Nicki that's well deserved. I love how she often works with the same producer too to really define a sound

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    DEL_245

    Kala by M.I.A

    Literally every MIA album besides AIM

  • Jul 2, 2020

    I think pink friday is the closest she has to a classic, but theres a few duds on there

  • Lamont

    Literally every MIA album besides AIM

    even AIM era got some good moments.

    Borders video is amazing

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    theDonandOnly

    Meg's in a different league to Cardi to me, vocally, writing and she has way more of a musical identity/sound.

    Hip hop viewed Cardi as an entertainer I think, Meg does have a lot more artistic credibility.

    I love Rico, but do you think that part of it is because the music and everything about her isn't as mainstream? Like Doja and Meg have had some very mainstream songs to help them break through.

    I think if Meg takes over Nicki that's well deserved. I love how she often works with the same producer too to really define a sound

    Bro I’m not capping when I say if Rico Nasty had a body like Meg she’d be doing so much better.

    It sounds horrible and sexist and that’s cuz it is. The type of music that she makes is definitely an aspect to it but Doja Cat was making super weird s*** and even she had a huge following before Say So.

    I’m not saying to discredit either Rico or Meg. But the majority of Hip-Hop listeners aren’t flocking to these girls if they don’t look how they do let’s keep it a stack.

    Or maybe I’m off?

  • Jul 2, 2020
    theDonandOnly

    Meg's in a different league to Cardi to me, vocally, writing and she has way more of a musical identity/sound.

    Hip hop viewed Cardi as an entertainer I think, Meg does have a lot more artistic credibility.

    I love Rico, but do you think that part of it is because the music and everything about her isn't as mainstream? Like Doja and Meg have had some very mainstream songs to help them break through.

    I think if Meg takes over Nicki that's well deserved. I love how she often works with the same producer too to really define a sound

    But yea I think Meg is in a much higher league than Cardi.

    Meg can be the next rap queen if she plays the cards right. Doesn’t hurt that she has such a likable personality.

  • Jul 2, 2020

    Pink Friday is really good

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    Misogyny itt

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    KOLLAPS

    Name one female rapper as successful as her for as long as she’s been successful.

    I will wait.

    missy elliot and she didn’t start then go out sad in a decade

  • Jul 2, 2020
    DEL_245

    maybe but beam me up scotty a classic mixtape

  • Jul 2, 2020

    pink friday maybe as well

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    KOLLAPS

    Bro I’m not capping when I say if Rico Nasty had a body like Meg she’d be doing so much better.

    It sounds horrible and sexist and that’s cuz it is. The type of music that she makes is definitely an aspect to it but Doja Cat was making super weird s*** and even she had a huge following before Say So.

    I’m not saying to discredit either Rico or Meg. But the majority of Hip-Hop listeners aren’t flocking to these girls if they don’t look how they do let’s keep it a stack.

    Or maybe I’m off?

    that's definitely true. And it makes it much harder but tbf Missy managed to get past this and even if she has a different following to the hip hop base so did Lizzo.

    With Rico you're right but idk that she could ever go mainstream like Meg/Doja.

    Even before Doja, Doja made very mainstream tracks a lot of the time even tho she had a weird internet humour. Like everything from So High to Moo (which is commercial when it comes to making a meme), then songs like Juicy or even Cyber S***are all mainstream. Say So just taking it to a new level. That's a classic Dr Luke song in every way. He could have given that to one of his popstars like a decade ago

    Talking of Dr Luke, Doja such a problematic artist to be so mainstream lmao. Like could she really not find another pop producer

  • Jul 2, 2020
    slutforkendrick

    missy elliot and she didn’t start then go out sad in a decade

    Read through the thread my brother

  • Jul 2, 2020

    The first Pink Friday album a personal classic for me at least

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    slutforkendrick

    missy elliot and she didn’t start then go out sad in a decade

    Missy only retired cos she got ill. She was still making amazing music

  • theDonandOnly

    Missy only retired cos she got ill. She was still making amazing music

    WTF(where they from) out now

  • Jul 2, 2020

    False.

  • Jul 2, 2020
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    theDonandOnly

    Didn't Lauryn Hill leave loads of producers like Che Pope (works with Ye now) uncredited on Miseducation tho too. Not questioning she wrote the bars but that's still a s***ty thing to do

    I think John Legend or somebody played in her band and she didn't pay then cuz "playing with her was enough promotion" 🤦🏿‍♂️

    It's ok to be a little egotistical but it's just downright disrespectful to not credit or pay at all

  • Jul 3, 2020
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    Fahim

    Misogyny itt

    I feel like kollaps is being honest, like he's clearly a fan of Rico and thinks she should be more popular, which she should

  • Jul 3, 2020
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    theDonandOnly

    that's definitely true. And it makes it much harder but tbf Missy managed to get past this and even if she has a different following to the hip hop base so did Lizzo.

    With Rico you're right but idk that she could ever go mainstream like Meg/Doja.

    Even before Doja, Doja made very mainstream tracks a lot of the time even tho she had a weird internet humour. Like everything from So High to Moo (which is commercial when it comes to making a meme), then songs like Juicy or even Cyber S***are all mainstream. Say So just taking it to a new level. That's a classic Dr Luke song in every way. He could have given that to one of his popstars like a decade ago

    Talking of Dr Luke, Doja such a problematic artist to be so mainstream lmao. Like could she really not find another pop producer

    Bruh I even know about that mans I could give 2 f***s about Kesha🤣

    Honestly I hope more women become bigger fans of Hip-Hop. Maybe that will help some of these girls reach a level of success without having to get ass shots.

  • beast444

    I think John Legend or somebody played in her band and she didn't pay then cuz "playing with her was enough promotion" 🤦🏿‍♂️

    It's ok to be a little egotistical but it's just downright disrespectful to not credit or pay at all

    Not just that, but literally people who programmed beats and everything

  • Jul 3, 2020
    theDonandOnly

    I feel like kollaps is being honest, like he's clearly a fan of Rico and thinks she should be more popular, which she should

    Thank you

  • Jul 3, 2020

    pink Friday is a classic sorry b***oo

  • Jul 3, 2020
    theDonandOnly

    Missy only retired cos she got ill. She was still making amazing music

    I didn’t know this. I needa learn more about Missy clearly.

  • Jul 3, 2020
    theDonandOnly

    I feel like kollaps is being honest, like he's clearly a fan of Rico and thinks she should be more popular, which she should

    Wasn't singling out the K-Pop stan, niggas in here saying no female rapper besides Lauryn Hill has a classic like Hard Core doesn't exist, and discrediting female rap as a whole.

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