yes, sales definitely dictate how an artist or an album is seen, wait until you find out what Illmatic sold at first or how The Velvet Underground’s self titled album was viewed before a couple of years slid by

I was surprised people saw that White Iverson video and were like yeah this is hip hop

i mean I was speaking generally but obliviously you felt compelled by that label

yeah because you’re reducing my entire issues with these niggas with some personal gripe when it isn’t true

im one of the niggas on here always talking about separating art from artist, i can look at Thug without factoring in he tried to do some weird s*** to Wayne

Edumist going to war for Weezy

i can dig this if the thread was about hmmm lets say lil tony who ironically hasn’t gotten a fraction of the “big” page coverage ian has gotten even tho he seems to have a decent fanbase and is actually from atlanta adding new s*** to the sound relatively lol

#hmmmm

Thug fans are highkey scumbags i swear lol

they trolled Wayne fans for literally years, called everything Thug did amazing and classic, and now years later when it’s finally time to have an honest conversation about how a lot of his s*** wasn’t like that + his influence wasn’t exactly positive, now it’s “you’re just hating”

dishonest pieces of s***

So who exactly is overrating thug, he’s not critically acclaimed, he didn’t start selling records until j cole of all people co signed him lol

we are NEVER gonna leave that trap poptimist s*** from the mid 2010s

i’ve been waiting for that s*** to be over since i was in f***ing middle school

these niggas are gonna perpetuate this s*** until the genre either finally dies or we’re in a retirement home

Falling for outrage marketing on Ian is a new low. So easy to ignore

There’s always been white rappers

he is acclaimed, what are you talking about? there’s literally a Reddit thread that compiled his scores, he had nothing below a 7

that’s yet another Thug stan narrative that you guys recycle to dodge criticism

you niggas acted like he was this generational genius his entire run that nobody understood, now he’s some sort of underground legend that never got a fair shake? what are we doing?

Comments like “cringe”, “ratio” “who asked” certainly play a role.

You can dislike this category of music, and given where things are headed you might be justified in doing so, but in that category Thug and Future did it the best and made some great s***. They aren't to blame.

young thug is not critically acclaimed, I’m not talking about Reddit/online ass music spheres

You mean the Grammys and s***?

reddit.com/r/YoungThug/comments/qd206x/pitchforks_ratings_for_thuggers_solo_projects

ignance itt:

But deadass it’s not that serious. Stop crying

definitely or how about just being perceived as an awards worthy artist, I think he might have a nom attached to someone else’s song but not much else

even a guy like Carti who sighted Wayne as a heavy influence recently is just yapping, doesn’t approach music remotely in the same way, all these new age dudes cues come precisely from thug & future that’s just the reality, indirectly it’s definitely Wayne influence indirectly tho

Siding with the Grammys on rap music?

No never

guy copied his tattoos, remixed a song off of D3 and literally said he adopted Wayne’s recording style

im sure you know more than he does though

Ass