What does this even mean

ugh fine

untiljapan - ill check them out
Lucy bedroque - very good, don’t have very much mainstream potential tho Edward skeletrix - ill check them out fakemink - see above
MIKE- see above plus add in what i said about lucy
McKinley dixon - ill check them out prettifun - good music, don’t see mainstream appeal sadly
skaiwater- love him and i do hope he blows up but idk if its gonna happen Jane remover - overrated sorry
Jim legxacy - see what i said about skaiwater

its just exiting the late majority stage say byebye!

Just off a quick glance even with the Taylor dominance there's several recent breakout acts like Leon Thomas, Olivia Dean, Sombr, etc.. who are still at their peak positions right now. Not to mention younger big stars like Sabrina Carpenter.

R&B, Pop, Country, KPOP, etc.. They're all there in numbers even if you excuse the names you mentioned. That's my point there's only really one major and historic outlier right now. Its not everyone if the others are still on the chart

when y’all say “young visionaries” the standards for me are ye and kendrick level. so far there’s no artists out rn that can live up to that caliber. hope that im wrong tho

If those are your standards then you’ll die dissappointed lol

Bro is asking for us to form our standards around the two greatest recording artists of the modern day

That’s a disservice to everyone

The question though is not that there's 'breakout stars' is that who of these breakout stars

debuted after 2020
can sell 100K

Pholks EP from Leon isn't doing it
Olivia Dean just did 43K
Sombr's joint did 31K first week
Sabrina carpenter debut was in 2015

You are making my point. Most of these stars right now are not really all that commercially viable with the exception being those that came before 2020, when the masses were introduced to them via mass conditioning and monoculture.

No one's buying these new acts albums.

If you wanna make the point that there are more artists from other genres on the charts than Hip-Hop acts then sure, I suppose but it's not really all that relevant because no one's moving units except older established acts, no one is selling concert tickets except for older established acts.

he hasn’t stopped releasing music and has released singles for that said album too

It’s not that no one’s buying their albums

There’s just a lot more music out there now and listening habits are highly diversified

see this is part of the problem lol, people lowering their standards and accepting mediocrity. if yall really wanna see change then we gotta expect way more from artists sorry

Oh it is.

It goes back to my point. The reason why the music industry existed the way that it did, was that there was a finite amount of ways to consume product, which allowed labels to curate to a large degree, who they wanted or thought could sell records.

But now, because of social media, because of streaming, there's infinite ways to consume product 24/7. That's a problem because humans do not like listening to new music.

So unless they're forced to listen to new music, they will not consume music from unfamiliar acts. That is why, new 'stars' don't hit anymore, and why sensations like Leon Thomas can't move units.

So no one is buying or consuming newer acts in mass because unless they're forced to, they won't do it and the climate is such that they're not forced to.

You think I’m lowering my standards by not expecting people to operate at the same level of the greatest of all time? I’m just being realistic

How do you expect to be impressed or surprised by ANYTHING if they’re your baseline? The most anyone can do is meet your standard!

That's a problem because humans do not like listening to new music.

Disagree lol

It’s all or nothing with dude. He be speaking facts sometimes but the minute you disagree he starts going on these rants and as a teacher that is kind of embarassing ngl

Asking young artists to come in the game as good as prime Kendrick and Ye is a bit crazy

We live in a time where we see an artists growth from the beginning, we have to be patient while they develop

No it's a fact. There has been multiple studies done on this

Humans are inherently risk averse. That is, they don't like to venture into the unknown for anything fr

That's why platforms like 106 & Park, TRL, the Radio, Magazines, (all of which were and are controlled by record labels) were so pivotal. We had to consume music via these platforms and that is how we found out who we should pledge our allegiance to.

Without those platforms, we would all listen to the same 5 artists over and over again. That is why the death of monoculture is so pivotal to me regarding this whole thing, because monoculture really was the only way we as a people actually produced stars.

Monoculture gone = those aforementioned platforms gone = everyone living in their bubbles = no one giving new acts a chance = newer acts flopping left and right, which bleeds into Hip-Hop (and other genres of music, and entertainment) in decline.

how is that a standard and not an exception

Kanye and Kendrick are once in a lifetime artists man

That only one of those seven artists have even had concerts in my city in the past two years and the one that did was opening for a giant Billboard topping artist

"once in a lifetime"...two of them within the same decade. Right.

if you’re not at least trying to be up there with ye and kendrick then i don’t wanna hear none of that visionary s***. sorry but if yall call some of these artists that then im expecting that

There's been an unbroken chain of Kanye and Kendrick-level artists going back to the origination of hip-hop. Unbroken until now it seems. It's reasonable to seek successors.

MIKE and Niontay have absolutely performed near you and the other ones are quite literally starting their careers