Bro wtf😂😂

No one is theyre making s*** up

Rappers have been saying they’re rockstars since the genre began btw. Know ur history.

Do you remember what the Bieber song was?

also doesn't The Weeknd still label his stuff as R&B? or at least his recording company

i don't usually play devil's advocate like this but I can honestly see that being a valid point. Them just using the genre the artist has generally placed themselves in

another term I see no issue with haha

You're in support of killing hip-hop congratulations

What are you talking about

Bieber song was Intentions. Which would’ve been called an R&B song if a black singer made it, especially with a quavo feat

im putting rockstar under the same umbrella term “artists”. basically any label that tries to put something up at the expense of something else. But tbh I never really put their lifestyles and personas into the mix and always thought they were talkimg about how they created music. That makes sense tho lol u right.

Im talking bout how “high art” critics used to put down graffiti and street art calling it “low art” thats what i be thinking. But its honestly all context and how they say it when it comes to music

And yea, i dont see frank as a songwriter/singer honestly. I see him as a dude who just be doing dope s***, like an MF DOOM. And content creator dont really seem all that pretentious to call urself. Honestly seems like an undersell if u create art. Thats why he gets a half pass, only half cause he still labeled himself lol. Its more a me thing tho im not tryna speak for the whole game

Last paragraph is a good point as well

being a part of the generation that killed hip hop sounds lit TBH.

nah someone gotta have some answers for me bro too many saying the same thing

Wtf

Just because you don't want to be put in a box and called a rapper doesn't mean you're s***ting on rap or hip hop.

fellas are reaching

agree, what do you think about my other point? do we even know if it's the artist/label setting the genre labels on iTunes/streaming? must be if they're the same across all platforms right

pop radio didn’t play her 2010s stuff??

just her beyoncé album alone had partition and drunk in love, the latter of which went 3 times platinum and most certainly played on every radio station everywhere lol

Being a rapper is being an artist

hopsin

true, but it encompasses many sub genres

Although much of the music that appears on record charts is seen as pop music, the genre is distinguished from chart music. Identifying factors usually include repeated choruses and hooks, short to medium-length songs written in a basic format (often the verse-chorus structure), and rhythms or tempos that can be easily danced to. Much pop music also borrows elements from other styles such as rock, urban, dance, Latin, and country.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_music

White pop radio has not played a new Beyoncé single since single ladies and halo. Contrast Adele and Taylor Swift to her.

You have a good point but I don’t know about if they do it or not

feel you on the graffiti a***ogy, that gives me a little bit more insight on your perspective

“urban”

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_contemporary

this is insane to me

you’re acting like this is some psyop

it’s not that deep

99% of old white folks don’t like rap, for one reason or another, so yeah they see it as a bad thing

everyone else, in like the whole word, loves rap (it’s the most popular genre atm, no?)

and there are more people <50+ years old so i’d say the majority are not trying to do anything subconsciously or consciously for that matter

This facts. But I agree cause something about rappers scoffing at the idea of being called rappers because they view it as "lowly" has always rubbed me the wrong way. What's wrong with being called a rapper? Especially when all you f***in doing is rapping about some bullshit and getting renegaded by the producer?