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    Fellas should I swap out out my heavy 5x5 bench for 3x8-12 if growth is what I'm after rn I do both individually once per week but I could care less for crazy strength

  • Dec 14, 2020
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    What's the point of being big if you're not that strong?

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    Misery

    What's the point of being big if you're not that strong?

    I'm not caring to compete in any strength competitions, 2 very different things to me

  • Dec 14, 2020

    Also just realized ALL my macros are too low. Damn

  • Dec 14, 2020
    Wigga Scientist

    I'm not caring to compete in any strength competitions, 2 very different things to me

    Whatever works 4 you

  • Dec 14, 2020
    Wigga Scientist

    Fellas should I swap out out my heavy 5x5 bench for 3x8-12 if growth is what I'm after rn I do both individually once per week but I could care less for crazy strength

    yeah def go for higher reps and focus on mind muscle connection

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    Wigga Scientist

    Fellas should I swap out out my heavy 5x5 bench for 3x8-12 if growth is what I'm after rn I do both individually once per week but I could care less for crazy strength

    you'd still get more muscle hypotrophy with a strength program tbh. i'd say find ur max 5x5 and drop it to around 25% then do the 8-10 x3

    but you are really missing out on some gains if ur doing 1 muscle group per week imo

    EDIT: sorry have to mention that u really need to tie in ur training to ur diet. if ur cutting then i'd say u might wanna tone done on pushing yourself strenght-wise but if u are cruising at maintenance then what i mentioned above should work

  • Dec 14, 2020
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    Mike22

    you'd still get more muscle hypotrophy with a strength program tbh. i'd say find ur max 5x5 and drop it to around 25% then do the 8-10 x3

    but you are really missing out on some gains if ur doing 1 muscle group per week imo

    EDIT: sorry have to mention that u really need to tie in ur training to ur diet. if ur cutting then i'd say u might wanna tone done on pushing yourself strenght-wise but if u are cruising at maintenance then what i mentioned above should work

    Rn I'm doing 5x5 on one push day and 3x8-12 on another + an upper chest lift both days following that protocol of 25% less of my 5x5 max

    Could you elaborate on me getting more growth with a strength program?

    I'm pretty much +250 over maintenance rn

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    Wigga Scientist

    Rn I'm doing 5x5 on one push day and 3x8-12 on another + an upper chest lift both days following that protocol of 25% less of my 5x5 max

    Could you elaborate on me getting more growth with a strength program?

    I'm pretty much +250 over maintenance rn

    well its just basics of progressive overload in the sense that u are causing more tears to ur muscle fibers by using a heavier weight than last time. thing is with doing a standard 8-10 is that you really dont know if u are overloading ur muslce or just pushing within ur comfort zone so u might be getting the muscle tissue contraction but not to the point where you are forcing the muscle to actually grow

    im assuming that you are more concerned about toning the muscles more than actually being strong. what u can do is hit the 5x5 incrementally and do a drop set in ur final set. so for ex, say ur max 5x5 is 315. u start at 220, 260, 315 on the third, fourth and fifth set then drop the weights. you can also try to do strenth based excercises for the first 5 execercises then focus on boosting ur rep count on the other 5. thats what im doing rn but that will take u a good 1.5 - 2 hours in the gym

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    I’ve worked out consistently for two months and I feel like I’ve seen no progress. This is so frustrating, there’s no way to figure out what I’m doing wrong

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    Wigga Scientist

    Fellas should I swap out out my heavy 5x5 bench for 3x8-12 if growth is what I'm after rn I do both individually once per week but I could care less for crazy strength

    i'd honestly do the 5x5 on push day 1 and the 3x12 on push day 2

    dup type training/repeated bout effect + for me at least, i'd get bored doing the same rep/set range every time

  • Mike22

    well its just basics of progressive overload in the sense that u are causing more tears to ur muscle fibers by using a heavier weight than last time. thing is with doing a standard 8-10 is that you really dont know if u are overloading ur muslce or just pushing within ur comfort zone so u might be getting the muscle tissue contraction but not to the point where you are forcing the muscle to actually grow

    im assuming that you are more concerned about toning the muscles more than actually being strong. what u can do is hit the 5x5 incrementally and do a drop set in ur final set. so for ex, say ur max 5x5 is 315. u start at 220, 260, 315 on the third, fourth and fifth set then drop the weights. you can also try to do strenth based excercises for the first 5 execercises then focus on boosting ur rep count on the other 5. thats what im doing rn but that will take u a good 1.5 - 2 hours in the gym

    I think I'm in a genuine place of pushing myself because I've just failed the 11th rep of my last 3x12 chest set the other day, I've been f***ing with that concept of putting on more load once I hit 3x12 clean reps, incrementally going up 2lbs each time I can

    I f*** with your training but it lowkey sound a bit complicated for a novice like me giving me ideas to think tho

  • aaron xx

    i'd honestly do the 5x5 on push day 1 and the 3x12 on push day 2

    dup type training/repeated bout effect + for me at least, i'd get bored doing the same rep/set range every time

    you're right about the variety I think imma stick to what I'm already on

  • imma start switching out reverse grip bench & landmine press each time too . really not feeling the muscle connection w the reverse grip but I'm adamant to get that b**** down cuz of the results ppl had

    experimenting w the cable chest flies as well, so many f***ing angles, grips, arm positions to choose from

  • Dec 14, 2020
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    EMY

    I’ve worked out consistently for two months and I feel like I’ve seen no progress. This is so frustrating, there’s no way to figure out what I’m doing wrong

    What are your goals?

  • Dec 14, 2020
    Misery

    i ain't tripping, you saw it too right?

  • QrOv

    this is my endgame goal so long away tho

  • Anyone else running nsuns. Its wild this program has helped me blow past bench plateus, was stuck on same weight for like 6 months but now 30 lbs past it.

  • Dec 14, 2020
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    Wigga Scientist

    What are your goals?

    To lower my body fat percentage

  • Dec 14, 2020
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    EMY

    To lower my body fat percentage

    Have you been tracking your cals? That'll help a lot

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    Wigga Scientist

    Have you been tracking your cals? That'll help a lot

    I’ve recently started eating at a deficit but I wasn’t doing that the entire two months

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    EMY

    I’ve recently started eating at a deficit but I wasn’t doing that the entire two months

    You're gonna see a huge change tracking ur cals fam lbs gonna drop off like nothing if you've got your deficit in check

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    Wigga Scientist

    You're gonna see a huge change tracking ur cals fam lbs gonna drop off like nothing if you've got your deficit in check

    I hope your right Brodie

  • Dec 14, 2020
    ragedsycokiller

    Almost finished building my home gym. Just got my tricep rope in the mail with some 2.5 and 5 lb weights. Almost 6 months no gym, I'm start off with starting strength for 5 months before going into a specific program

    Happy for you brodie

    Get that work in

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    EMY

    I’ve recently started eating at a deficit but I wasn’t doing that the entire two months

    Look at meal timing too, IF (intermittent fasting) will help heaps.