Is it me or for like half the movie I thought Jason Clarke was Matthew Perry

I mean, that’s how all scientific progress is made. It’s a collaborative process that builds on what was done in the past and communications with what others are doing at the present time. The same could be said about how history progresses. Any ‘Great Man’ we think of in history is not independent from the time they are born in and the massive political, economic, social (etc.) trends, forces, and attitudes at play during their lives.

It’s kinda why I disagree with Oppenheimer being tagged in promos as “the most important man who ever lived” because generally I don’t think that’s how history works. If it wasn’t him, it would’ve been someone else. I think the movie makes makes this evident through Groves and the amorphous military in the background throughout, emphasizing that this was happening with or without Oppie.

Lol cause same

you telling me that wasn't Matthew Perry fr?

Oh I’m sure, but I’m American and know Americans and our history

but yeah I mean ‘The Act of Killing’ on Hulu shows this well elsewhere in the world. The 1965 genociders of communists in Indonesia are still very much in charge today and remain totally proud at what they had done, joyously retelling tales of torture and murder, while being plagued by literal nightmares and eventually breaking down in tearful guilt-ridden regret.

Idk I’m just fascinated by this human psychological need to dismiss or justify evil that has been done (personally or by your country) that benefits you, and instead morphing it into a point of pride as a coping mechanism

That’s who he reminded me of couldn’t put a name to it

yep i picked up on that too...i havent seen many people talk about this maybe because the cut was so fast

You do he’s referencing the theory that she was killed

The act of killing respect lol I mentioned it in the other thread too I hope more watch things like that

i've been sitting with this movie for a couple days and yeah it's still a 10 the best movie i've seen since once upon a time in hollywood fs

Real

That’s kind of true, but on the other hand that’s the big man’s game in the end. I couldn’t tell you a single big world leader in history that doesn’t have blood on his hands in some type of way. It has more to do with the extreme positions these people are in than with the people themselves. I think it’s way too simplistic to think all the people you mentioned are inherently war criminals or some kind of ‘evil’, something that in my opinion is way too often said these days. It’s simply unimaginable for the average joe to make decisions that impact the lives of millions. Not saying Bush and Obama are some all benevolent beings tho and not saying there aren’t some straight up evil people in power. I just think it’s very easy for people who will never have to make decisions of those magnitudes to feel self righteous and point fingers to the ones that have to make them. You have to have people that make decisions like that. I know these views maybe kind of controversial. And I feel like it’s pretty opposite to your world view. Also I know there’s a lot more nuance to this than I wrote in this post.

Naw I said it was my least favorite Nolan. Never said this or Interstellar are bad films. I just have a preference you disagree with

But again I don’t expect a non New England native that supports the Patriots to have any type of original or nuanced opinion on anything

Idiot

Damn.

Yes a lifelong non New England fan that is still a New England fan rather than bandwagoning away after brady left

How on earth do you not see how stupid you are for trying to clown me on that.

Saying these two were your least favourite indicates you didn’t like them as much as other which indicates you have issues with them. You see what I’m getting it?

Also I’ve never seen you in sports section so shut the f*** up about sports when you clearly don’t know s***

You became a fan under Brady dynasty. The easiest team to latch onto in the NFL for over a decade. I don’t respect any of your opinions off that alone

Both movies are fine they just aren’t great to me like The Dark Knight. You got sensitive over my preference 🤣

tbh i loved the way they hyped the einstein convo like marvel would tease thanos

Welcome Jim

I became a fan when I was f***ing 8 years old off madden 08

That dynasty didn’t win till 2014 since I started watching, on top of that if I was someone who only followed good teams why the f*** do I have a Mac jones avy and not a mahomes avy

Stupid f***, see me in the nfl thread this szn and we’ll see who knows ball

fuming over football in the Oppenheimer spoiler thread in July

They straight brawling lol

“ see me in the nfl thread and we will see who knows ball” got me crine but go off ng

I became an eagles fan off madden but madden like 98 or some s*** lol

A small detail I just noticed is that Isidor offers Oppy food twice In the film. The first time was when Oppy was home sick and felt unwelcomed in Europe, the second was when Oppy realized he was being betrayed by the AEC and subsequently his own country. Both times symbolize Isidors unwavering respect and loyalty to Oppy despite the public opinion of him being negative.