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  • Jul 25, 2023
    HURRY UP BGFX
    https://twitter.com/trentandrewrld/status/1683566912335380481

    oppenheimer: i have blood on my hands :(

    truman:

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    Oppenheimer vs Hamilton

    • Both based on best seller hagiogrpahies

    • First act has momentum building to war

    • Young men bonding over a shared vision
    • Some obligatory love stuff
    • Neglects wife for work and cheats
    • Overly talented male ensemble

    • War ends

    • Friends turn mortal rivals

    • Thankless workaholics now have to confront their personal turmoil
    • Subjected to public hearings condemning their character which reveal infidelity
    • Final act drags

    • Pandering focus on wife as their tortured better half

    • Ultimately vindicated
    • Federal reserve and nuclear bombs are both ass
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    Block Muteson

    Oppenheimer vs Hamilton

    • Both based on best seller hagiogrpahies

    • First act has momentum building to war

    • Young men bonding over a shared vision
    • Some obligatory love stuff
    • Neglects wife for work and cheats
    • Overly talented male ensemble

    • War ends

    • Friends turn mortal rivals

    • Thankless workaholics now have to confront their personal turmoil
    • Subjected to public hearings condemning their character which reveal infidelity
    • Final act drags

    • Pandering focus on wife as their tortured better half

    • Ultimately vindicated
    • Federal reserve and nuclear bombs are both ass

    Hamilton

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    Oppenheimer

    • Kino
  • Jul 25, 2023
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    Hamilton

    • Reddit

    Oppenheimer

    • Kino

    Oppenheimer is Reddit
    Hamilton is Etsy

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    MCN

    felt that the clearance hearing was the most important part of the movie. the movie was less about telling the story of oppenheimer/the manhattan project and more a commentary on how america treats its heroes

    And that is a wasted opportunity

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    The real Oppenheimer reflecting on building the atomic bomb and it being used
    I needed more of this in the movie and less interrogation and “this what America does to its heroes”

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    Oscar Winner

    "You're a typical MCU fan" is some of the dumbest insults I've read on this site. 9/10 ya'll be saying that s*** to people who don't even like the MCU...I like the MCU btw.

    In every thread too. It’s either you like (insert movie) or you must be mcu brain. It’s like their only sense of reference is marvel. It makes them look like they don’t watch many movies more so than the person they’re insulting

  • Jul 25, 2023
    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    In every thread too. It’s either you like (insert movie) or you must be mcu brain. It’s like their only sense of reference is marvel. It makes them look like they don’t watch many movies more so than the person they’re insulting

    Lmao facts!

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    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    In every thread too. It’s either you like (insert movie) or you must be mcu brain. It’s like their only sense of reference is marvel. It makes them look like they don’t watch many movies more so than the person they’re insulting

    Lol while I do think the over focus of wanting a bigger bomb or explosion or sound is silly it has nothing to do with marvel

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    HaroldsChicken

    Lol while I do think the over focus of wanting a bigger bomb or explosion or sound is silly it has nothing to do with marvel

    Personally I liked how the bomb was shown. Silence when it happened then loud when he remembers it

    But yeah people doing too much in this sxn when they like a movie. Is there even a marvel fan in this sxn that goes to bat for them like that? Feel like all that hypes died down since KTT1

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    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    Personally I liked how the bomb was shown. Silence when it happened then loud when he remembers it

    But yeah people doing too much in this sxn when they like a movie. Is there even a marvel fan in this sxn that goes to bat for them like that? Feel like all that hypes died down since KTT1

    The complaint of the bomb wasn't big enough, loud enough, should see japanese civilian dies are all tone deaf to me but got nothing to do with Marvel.

    Those that wish the final hour focused more on Nuclear disarmament, World destruction through nukes and the worlds reactions to nukes outside of just the americans reactions to slides they showed. I get

    But on here everything is boiled down to "you miss MCU" same as the "EEAO is a marvel movie". People aren't here aren't good at articulating anything of their own opinion outside of outrage, comparison and hyperbole

  • The Truman scene still got me rolling. Bruh was wylin

  • Jul 25, 2023
    HaroldsChicken

    The complaint of the bomb wasn't big enough, loud enough, should see japanese civilian dies are all tone deaf to me but got nothing to do with Marvel.

    Those that wish the final hour focused more on Nuclear disarmament, World destruction through nukes and the worlds reactions to nukes outside of just the americans reactions to slides they showed. I get

    But on here everything is boiled down to "you miss MCU" same as the "EEAO is a marvel movie". People aren't here aren't good at articulating anything of their own opinion outside of outrage, comparison and hyperbole

    Last hour of the movie after the explosion was my favorite section tbh. Tension went up an extra level and seeing how Oppenheimer’s invention affected him was dope to me

    I know there are people who wanted to see other side of things but the script was based on a book called American Prometheus

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    HaroldsChicken

    The complaint of the bomb wasn't big enough, loud enough, should see japanese civilian dies are all tone deaf to me but got nothing to do with Marvel.

    Those that wish the final hour focused more on Nuclear disarmament, World destruction through nukes and the worlds reactions to nukes outside of just the americans reactions to slides they showed. I get

    But on here everything is boiled down to "you miss MCU" same as the "EEAO is a marvel movie". People aren't here aren't good at articulating anything of their own opinion outside of outrage, comparison and hyperbole

    If you're going to show a p***ographic reverence for the bomb show the actual results of it. I don't think that's tone deaf. It's keep that same energy. And Oppenheimer being the figure of nuclear regulation is a joke. They don't talk about the baby corpse theft, the birth defects, the radiation testing or anything. The film isn't actually concerned with any of that stuff. That's just how you hold on Oppenheimer and honestly who cares. I don't think he even seemed that special. The timeline race against Nazis wasn't even real. Teller made the H bomb lol. His own movie couldn't sell him as a great man of history

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    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    Personally I liked how the bomb was shown. Silence when it happened then loud when he remembers it

    But yeah people doing too much in this sxn when they like a movie. Is there even a marvel fan in this sxn that goes to bat for them like that? Feel like all that hypes died down since KTT1

    I’m probably one of the most open about liking some MCU movies, @Elric too and yeah ion be going to bat for marvel lol

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    Block Muteson

    If you're going to show a p***ographic reverence for the bomb show the actual results of it. I don't think that's tone deaf. It's keep that same energy. And Oppenheimer being the figure of nuclear regulation is a joke. They don't talk about the baby corpse theft, the birth defects, the radiation testing or anything. The film isn't actually concerned with any of that stuff. That's just how you hold on Oppenheimer and honestly who cares. I don't think he even seemed that special. The timeline race against Nazis wasn't even real. Teller made the H bomb lol. His own movie couldn't sell him as a great man of history

    P***ographic reverence not an overstatement to you? Sense of wonder yes. Felt more like space launch than a bomb . Americans feeling on top both in the world and technology.

    They didn't make the bomb sexy

    The horror was in the speech and later in the hallucinations. Did we need to see that horror inflicted on actual Japanese people ? No. That would have been terrible

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    Block Muteson

    If you're going to show a p***ographic reverence for the bomb show the actual results of it. I don't think that's tone deaf. It's keep that same energy. And Oppenheimer being the figure of nuclear regulation is a joke. They don't talk about the baby corpse theft, the birth defects, the radiation testing or anything. The film isn't actually concerned with any of that stuff. That's just how you hold on Oppenheimer and honestly who cares. I don't think he even seemed that special. The timeline race against Nazis wasn't even real. Teller made the H bomb lol. His own movie couldn't sell him as a great man of history

    It is tone deaf if you wanted

    -Japanese people we haven't seen on screen for 2.5 hours reenacting one of their most painful parts in history so you can feel the pain of the bomb
    -Oppenheimer being the sole figure of nuclear regulation or just the communist is narrow sited when it is many and they should talk about more. The 200k dead from after effects of the nuke is talked about is it deep dived ? No because as made abundantly clear Americans didn't give a f*** it was ignorance is bliss

    • Much of what you are concerned about comes down to biography vs documentary to me but go off.

    It makes clear its his perspective. Is his perspective wrong, ill informed or hyping him up more than it should ? Yes. He is our narrator.

    I responded twice because a paragraph was added to original post

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    Oscar Winner

    I’m probably one of the most open about liking some MCU movies, @Elric too and yeah ion be going to bat for marvel lol

    Yeah I'm a very vocal mcu stan but I've also seen more films from all decades than 99.9% of the people on here so they can automatically suck hammer if they think they can shame me over it

  • Jul 25, 2023
    Elric

    Yeah I'm a very vocal mcu stan but I've also seen more films from all decades than 99.9% of the people on here so they can automatically suck hammer if they think they can shame me over it

    TALK THAT S***

  • Jul 25, 2023
    HaroldsChicken

    It is tone deaf if you wanted

    -Japanese people we haven't seen on screen for 2.5 hours reenacting one of their most painful parts in history so you can feel the pain of the bomb
    -Oppenheimer being the sole figure of nuclear regulation or just the communist is narrow sited when it is many and they should talk about more. The 200k dead from after effects of the nuke is talked about is it deep dived ? No because as made abundantly clear Americans didn't give a f*** it was ignorance is bliss

    • Much of what you are concerned about comes down to biography vs documentary to me but go off.

    It makes clear its his perspective. Is his perspective wrong, ill informed or hyping him up more than it should ? Yes. He is our narrator.

    I responded twice because a paragraph was added to original post

    Yeah we already got Letters From Iwo Jima which contained enough anglo guilt and depicted enough respectful japanese perspective to cover us for quite a while

  • Jul 25, 2023
    HaroldsChicken

    It is tone deaf if you wanted

    -Japanese people we haven't seen on screen for 2.5 hours reenacting one of their most painful parts in history so you can feel the pain of the bomb
    -Oppenheimer being the sole figure of nuclear regulation or just the communist is narrow sited when it is many and they should talk about more. The 200k dead from after effects of the nuke is talked about is it deep dived ? No because as made abundantly clear Americans didn't give a f*** it was ignorance is bliss

    • Much of what you are concerned about comes down to biography vs documentary to me but go off.

    It makes clear its his perspective. Is his perspective wrong, ill informed or hyping him up more than it should ? Yes. He is our narrator.

    I responded twice because a paragraph was added to original post

    I want actual pictures of the actual devastation tbh. Put this dumb history channel hagiography in perspective. And again, the salivating fetishistic way they depict the detonation warrants that comedown.

    This is another white man make war but war make white man sad 🥲

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    HaroldsChicken

    P***ographic reverence not an overstatement to you? Sense of wonder yes. Felt more like space launch than a bomb . Americans feeling on top both in the world and technology.

    They didn't make the bomb sexy

    The horror was in the speech and later in the hallucinations. Did we need to see that horror inflicted on actual Japanese people ? No. That would have been terrible

    I mean it was the most compelling art in the film. The sound design was so smart. Feels like he honestly just took people's critique and said "oh it's too loud? How about nothing." Brilliant.

    The movie is about the bomb. It doesn't show them using slave labor to mine it out of the congo. It doesn't show who we dropped it on. It just makes you root for these scientists and take seriously their moral quandary. It's such a narrow, blinkered space to tell the story in

  • Jul 26, 2023

    This guy used The Dark Knight Rises to recreate the Bolshevik revolution as The Purge but he can't show a single victim of his science fetish besides its poor creator

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