I agree with everything you said but Drake could definitely perform at the Super Bowl, especially if it was with Wayne and/or Nicki

The way KTT acts like The Weeknd isn’t the biggest hitmaker of the decade so far is funny. Literally a string of hit songs nonstop for +4 years now lol starting in Dec/2019 with Heartless/Blinding Lights

He has a hit right now which was originally just some random song from The Idol soundtrack

Adding the fact that he’s also on a stadium world tour currently, I don’t think that Dawn FM US debut from 2 years ago really matters in the grand scheme of things

Sorry bro i live in the real world i never heard any bruno mars song post 2014

The fact you think beyonce is bigger mid 2010’s vrs destinys child and her solo 2000’s run just shows u dont live in the real world

Her literal top 3 best selling albums are all from the 2000’s

And i can tell ur a drake hater because no wherre did i mention drake is at his peak goofy ass nigga, i just said he still sells out tours so from a financial perspective it would not make sense to go do a performance that takes months of prep and dipping into YOUR OWN budget because the superbowl doesnt cover it alll

Are you sure that’s really the “real world”? Cause reality shows otherwise

Why are KTT users proud of being ignorant?

“and as you can see her relevance in music only declinded since she did the Super Bowl” - you

meanwhile she’s doing better now than a decade ago

This man said weeknd peaked in 2010s yet hes bigger now than ever

I don't want anyone who can't dance.

her top 3 albums and all top singles are all from the 2000's, how is she more relevant now than in her prime?

to go even further, lets look at singles, since streaming era is singles dominated

EVERY SINGLE ONE OF HER TOP 10 SINGLES IS PRIOR TO 2011

“and as you can see her relevance in music only declinded since she did the Super Bowl”

“since she did the Super Bowl”

read your own post.

she has never been bigger post super-bowl then she was prior to 2013 when she did the superbowl, i have no idea what u tryna argue literlaly look at her numbers

im in the office getting paid here, i can go all day g

weeknd is literally the only artist that did the superbowl in his general prime years from recent memory

2024 - usher - out of prime
2023 - rihana - out of prime
2022 - dr dre - out of prime
2021 - weeknd - general prime
2020 - shakira - out of prime
2019 - marron 5 - out of prime
2018 - justin timberlake - out of prime
2017 - lady gaga - out of prime
2016 - coldplay - out of prime

the entire 2000's superbowl was all acts from the 80's and 90's. Prince, Paul Mcartney, Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, Aerosmith, Phill Collins

acting like the exception effects the general rule of thumb, which is superbowl performers are TYPICALLY 10 years out of their prime, which allows the general audience which is very broad (21-50 year olds) to know all their biggest hits

You claimed her relevance has declined since 2013, when she performed. Read your own post.

Which is in fact not true, since ALL her albums released after the Super Bowl outsold the album she released before the Super Bowl and all her singles this decade are doing better than her singles from the past decade. She’s literally doing better now than a decade ago.

my g, if you're arguing against sales figures, the most objective thing we have in music relevance, idk what to tell you

her top 3 best selling albums all pre-2013
her top 10 best selling singles all pre-2013

beyonce is simply NOT in her prime post-2013, there is nothing you can magically say that will change the fact that she sold more albums and more singles pre-2013

and i said ill give the weeknd in my original post, at the end of the day there might be exceptions but everyone knows superbowl performers are always generally out of their prime.

Again, read your own post.

I’m not comparing her today to her in 2000s. The comparison is with her in 2013 when she performed. You were the one that made this comparison when you claimed she has declined since 2013.

"all the albums she released after the superbowl out sold alll her albums before the superbowl" you literally just said that

Her Top Selling Albums of All time:
1. I AM SASHA FIERCE (2008)
BEYONCÉ
Sales: 9,680,000

2. DANGEROUSLY IN LOVE (2003)
BEYONCÉ
Sales: 8,618,083

3.
B'DAY (2006)
BEYONCÉ
Sales: 6,599,906

4.
BEYONCÉ (2013) (same year as the superbowl)
BEYONCÉ
Sales: 6,290,833

5. 4 (2011)
BEYONCÉ
Sales: 5,177,045

most recent albums: (went from selling diamond albums to barley cracking 1x plat, yet according to you she is still her prime)

HOMECOMING: THE LIVE ALBUM (2019)
BEYONCÉ
Sales: 540,000

RENAISSANCE (2022)
BEYONCÉ
Sales: 1,305,000

even her 2013 album the one literally released on superbowl year OUTSOLD every album after 2013

That’s not what I said.

The actual quote: “ALL her albums released after the Super Bowl outsold the album she released before the Super Bowl ”

The album in question is “4”, the album she released in 2011 and which was the album she was promoting and touring when she performed in 2013.
All her albums released after the SB (Self titled, Lemonade and Renaissance) were bigger than 4.

4 remains her least successful album and the only album without a song charting in the top 10.
And when it comes to singles, Break My Soul and Cuff It from Renaissance were bigger than any single from the 2010s. Break My Soul peaked at #1, something all her singles in the 2010s failed to do, and Cuff It is her longest charting single EVER. And currently, her new single is set to become her biggest debut ever next week.

So no, Beyoncé is not less musically relevant now compared to 2013 when she did the Super Bowl like you claimed. All stats shows that she’s actually bigger now than a decade ago.

“yet according to you she is still her prime”

this dude might be illiterate. no one said that

the comparison is 2020s Beyoncé with 2010s Beyoncé when she performed, not 2000s

1. you dumb as f***

2. beyonces prime was the 2000's, this whole debate started because the generality is that superbowl halftime performers are about 10 years out of their prime typically (which beyonce is, her prime was late 2000's according to all objective facts aka sales)

"4 remains her least successful album" - you

this is wild, u gotta be a beyonce stan or something

you literally can google, for free, and i posted the numbers for you, but "4" has outsold every single album post 2013

you thought lemonade was her "return", her "hit era" in 2016? guess what? "4" did double the album sales as Lemonade

idk bro you just be making s*** up when the numbers are there

i gave you her top best selling albums of all time and not one of them is post-2013, yet you have the audacity to say her albums post-2013 are bigger like wtf is wrong with you? both her 2011 and 2013 album doubled the sales of Lemonade, and Renaissance isnt even in the running to compare sales too

I can see that you don’t know how sales work. This platinum certification of Renaissance is from 2022, a few months after the album was released. US certifications are not automated.

Of course an album from 2011 has sold more than an album from 2022, released less than two years ago. However, Renaissance in less than 2 years is already about to outsell this decade old album. Not to mention the singles were bigger, especially globally.

And yes, Self-titled and Lemonade outsold 4. In fact, Lemonade was the best selling album of 2016, per IFPI.

This is all common knowledge.

4 remains Beyoncé’s least successful album

And again, reread your original post. Beyoncé is not less musically relevant compared to a decade ago. That’s exactly the comparison you made, not me.

“i gave you her top best selling albums of all time and not one of them is post-2013, yet you have the audacity to say her albums post-2013 are bigger like wtf is wrong with you? both her 2011 and 2013 album doubled the sales of Lemonade, and Renaissance isnt even in the running to compare sales too”

he’s not illiterate. he’s straight up [redacted] I fear

he just cannot understand that the comparison (that he made in the original post!) is ‘20s Beyoncé with ‘10s Beyoncé when he claimed she has declined since her performance. we know her prime years commercially was in the ‘00s

and he doesn’t realize that this 2013 album that he mentions was released almost a year after the SB

not going by certifications, i am going by reported album sales

4 (2011)
BEYONCÉ
Sales: 5,177,045

BEYONCÉ (2013)
BEYONCÉ
Sales: 6,290,833

LEMONADE (2016)
BEYONCÉ
Sales: 3,671,560

as you can see both her 2011 & 2013 album outsold lemonade, wtf you smoking?

bro your linking a "global top 10 of 2016" chart like that matters, were talking about AMERICAN sales, and ALL TIME sales

your f***ing ed g, no cap

not once did i ever care to compare 2020's beyonce u wana know why, no one gives a f*** about beyone in 2020's

"Beyonce - debuted in a group in the 90's peaked in the 2000's, was already declining sales wise in the early 2010's before she did the superbowl in 2013, and as you can see her relevance in music only declinded since she did the superbowl" - my original post.

tell me where i mentioned 2020's? dumbass nigga. everything i said in my original post is facts. SHE WAS IN HER PRIME IN THE 2000'S, and she has INDEEED lost relevance sales wise since 2013. this is not debatable. it is a fact.

we were comparing post-2013 beyonce with PRIME beyonce, your dumbass just started talking about 2020's like that matters, she is not relevant at all in the 2020's, sorry to break it you

Are you aware that this 2013 album is also one of the albums that were released after the Super Bowl along with Lemonade and Renaissance? It was literally her COMEBACK album after her flop album in 2011. So considering that it outsold her previous album before the SB, can you agree that no, she didn’t decline after the SB like you originally claimed?

btw dumbass nigga who has no idea about global vs U.S sales

heres the real list of SOUNDSCAN DATA for 2016 US sales:

1 DRAKE VIEWS 4,140,000 2016
2 ADELE 25 2,369,000 2015
3 BEYONCÉ LEMONADE 2,187,000 2016
4 RIHANNA ANTI 1,966,000 2016
5 TWENTY ONE PILOTS BLURRYFACE 1,732,000 2015
6 JUSTIN BIEBER PURPOSE 1,678,000 2015
7 CHRIS STAPLETON TRAVELLER 1,421,000 2015
8 SOUNDTRACK HAMILTON (ORIGINAL BROADWAY CAST RECORDING) 1,327,000 2015
9 SOUNDTRACK SUICIDE SQUAD 1,126,000 2016
10 ARIANA GRANDE DANGEROUS WOMAN 1,070,000 2016