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GabrieljesusCurrently reading meditations I love it.
Any reviews on this?
- Sep 26, 2023Big Tobacco
KTT reviews
Sep 26, 2023·2 replies
Yuzzy1. "The Closing of the American Mind" by Allan Bloom - Critiques existentialism's influence on American intellectual life.
2. "After Virtue" by Alasdair MacIntyre - Discusses the failure of individualistic ethical frameworks, including existentialism, to provide a robust moral structure.
3. "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions" by Thomas Kuhn - While not a direct critique, it challenges the existentialist idea that individual choices can drastically redefine paradigms.
4. "The Concept of Dread" by Søren Kierkegaard - An existentialist himself, Kierkegaard critiques certain existential ideas, providing a sort of "internal critique."
5. "Moral Man and Immoral Society" by Reinhold Niebuhr - Argues that existentialism fails to account for the complexities of social justice and systemic issues.
6. "The Myth of Sisyphus" by Albert Camus - Although Camus is often lumped with existentialists, he critiques certain elements of existentialism, especially its handling of the Absurd.
7. Articles by Karl Jaspers, Gabriel Marcel, and Emmanuel Levinas - These existentialist philosophers offer various critiques and refinements to existentialist themes.
Are there any books on consciousness & how it aligns with the universe specifically?
Sep 26, 2023·1 replyGabrieljesusCurrently reading meditations I love it.
Any reviews on this?
which translation are you reading?
- Sep 26, 2023·2 repliesVery Based
which translation are you reading?
English
- Sep 26, 2023Gabrieljesus
English
You should read it in Latin
- Sep 26, 2023·1 replyGabrieljesus
English
No haha I mean which English translator. The translations of Meditations are all vastly different.
- Sep 26, 2023·1 replyslime wrld
Are there any books on consciousness & how it aligns with the universe specifically?
The question is a little vague. I'm been enjoying Donald Hoffman's work in the last 10 years, not sure if it's exactly what you're asking for. Sounds like you're asking for more Alan Watts type stuff (the universe is conciousness etc.. etc.)
The Case Against Reality: Why Evolution Hid the Truth from Our Eyes by Hoffman is p cool
- Sep 26, 2023·1 replyVery Based
The question is a little vague. I'm been enjoying Donald Hoffman's work in the last 10 years, not sure if it's exactly what you're asking for. Sounds like you're asking for more Alan Watts type stuff (the universe is conciousness etc.. etc.)
The Case Against Reality: Why Evolution Hid the Truth from Our Eyes by Hoffman is p cool
Hoffman is great
- Sep 26, 2023·1 replyslime wrld
Are there any books on consciousness & how it aligns with the universe specifically?
1. "Mind in Life" by Evan Thompson - Combines philosophy, cognitive science, and phenomenology to discuss the nature of consciousness.
2. "The View from Nowhere" by Thomas Nagel
3. "Radicalizing Enactivism" by Daniel D. Hutto and Erik Myin - This work delves into the enactive view of cognition, discussing its implications for our understanding of consciousness.
4. "What Is It Like To Be a Bat?" by Thomas Nagel - Although a short paper rather than a book, it has been highly influential in the philosophy of mind and is cognizant of scientific paradigms.
5. "Neural Darwinism" by Gerald Edelman - Incorporates modern understandings of biology and neuroscience into a philosophical framework about consciousness.
6. "Naturalizing Phenomenology" edited by Jean Petitot, et al. - Collection of essays aiming to bridge phenomenology with modern sciences
7. "The Blackwell Guide to Philosophy of Mind" edited by Stephen P. Stich and Ted A. Warfield - Includes essays by modern philosophers who are well-versed in contemporary scientific advancements.
8. "Being No One" by Thomas Metzinger - Addresses the concept of 'self' in a world defined by both phenomenology and neuroscience.
9. "Inner Experience" by Georges Bataille - Deals with the limits of consciousness.
10. "Panpsychism in the West" by David Skrbina - Discusses the idea that all things have some form of consciousness.
- Sep 26, 2023·1 replyVery Based
No haha I mean which English translator. The translations of Meditations are all vastly different.
The one on audible
- Sep 26, 2023Yuzzy
1. "Mind in Life" by Evan Thompson - Combines philosophy, cognitive science, and phenomenology to discuss the nature of consciousness.
2. "The View from Nowhere" by Thomas Nagel
3. "Radicalizing Enactivism" by Daniel D. Hutto and Erik Myin - This work delves into the enactive view of cognition, discussing its implications for our understanding of consciousness.
4. "What Is It Like To Be a Bat?" by Thomas Nagel - Although a short paper rather than a book, it has been highly influential in the philosophy of mind and is cognizant of scientific paradigms.
5. "Neural Darwinism" by Gerald Edelman - Incorporates modern understandings of biology and neuroscience into a philosophical framework about consciousness.
6. "Naturalizing Phenomenology" edited by Jean Petitot, et al. - Collection of essays aiming to bridge phenomenology with modern sciences
7. "The Blackwell Guide to Philosophy of Mind" edited by Stephen P. Stich and Ted A. Warfield - Includes essays by modern philosophers who are well-versed in contemporary scientific advancements.
8. "Being No One" by Thomas Metzinger - Addresses the concept of 'self' in a world defined by both phenomenology and neuroscience.
9. "Inner Experience" by Georges Bataille - Deals with the limits of consciousness.
10. "Panpsychism in the West" by David Skrbina - Discusses the idea that all things have some form of consciousness.
highly appreciated
- Sep 26, 2023·1 replyGabrieljesus
The one on audible
you're making this so hard lol. Is it Gregory Hays? (trying to help u btw)
- Sep 26, 2023·2 repliesYuzzy
Hoffman is great
Really fascinating anti-realist. I'm trying to find the connection between Kant/Berkeley and what Hoffman's research is "postulating" (can't think of the right word). It's a strange concept to think what exists external of consciousness. One of the most interesting ideas in philosophy. Ayn Rand would have hated Hoffman.
- Sep 26, 2023·1 replyVery Based
Really fascinating anti-realist. I'm trying to find the connection between Kant/Berkeley and what Hoffman's research is "postulating" (can't think of the right word). It's a strange concept to think what exists external of consciousness. One of the most interesting ideas in philosophy. Ayn Rand would have hated Hoffman.
I'm not super read on him but everything he says seems almost like common sense
Like yes, of course we evolve to perceive that which is evolutionary advantageous
And of course that requires not perceiving some of the total, as total perception would overwhelm, as well as contain extraneous aspects
So there necessarily must be some aspects which we cannot ascertain directly through experience
- Sep 26, 2023·1 replyVery Based
you're making this so hard lol. Is it Gregory Hays? (trying to help u btw)
George Long 🙂
- Sep 26, 2023Gabrieljesus
George Long 🙂
okay cool. The Long version is good but a bit dated. If you can get your hand on the Gregory Hays version, I think it might be much more accessible.
- Sep 26, 2023·1 replyYuzzy
I'm not super read on him but everything he says seems almost like common sense
Like yes, of course we evolve to perceive that which is evolutionary advantageous
And of course that requires not perceiving some of the total, as total perception would overwhelm, as well as contain extraneous aspects
So there necessarily must be some aspects which we cannot ascertain directly through experience
He is really radical with his theory though (which I like) from what I understand he believes spacetime doesn't even exist external of consciousness (similar to Kant), "Space, time, and physical objects are not objective reality". This is the noumena, but completely unknowable. (though unlike Kant, I'm not sure Hoffman believes it's completely unknowable, his philosophical project may be to actually uncover the external) What confuses me is the various mathematical theories he uses to come to his conclusions. That goes right over my head.
- Sep 26, 2023Very Based
He is really radical with his theory though (which I like) from what I understand he believes spacetime doesn't even exist external of consciousness (similar to Kant), "Space, time, and physical objects are not objective reality". This is the noumena, but completely unknowable. (though unlike Kant, I'm not sure Hoffman believes it's completely unknowable, his philosophical project may be to actually uncover the external) What confuses me is the various mathematical theories he uses to come to his conclusions. That goes right over my head.
I think uncovering the external sounds right
My thinking is all characteristics like spacetime for example are projections governed partly by probabilities
Which is a little disheartening, we can only ascertain 'reality' by going backwards
Like if you bake a cake you can extract the ingredients and do a parts a***ysis to see what proportions of ingredients are. But if you don't know the process to bake it you can't reconstruct the ingredients
I'm gonna take a look at his papers, I studied math although the stuff he was discussing on the pod I watched was not something I'd seen before
- Oct 1, 2023·1 replyVery Based
Really fascinating anti-realist. I'm trying to find the connection between Kant/Berkeley and what Hoffman's research is "postulating" (can't think of the right word). It's a strange concept to think what exists external of consciousness. One of the most interesting ideas in philosophy. Ayn Rand would have hated Hoffman.
Kant and Berkeley are somewhat reminiscent of one another, but the core distinction I see between the two of them is particularly the noumenon, Berkeley essentially said there was nothing more than ideas that are perceived within the external world and there was essentially nothing more to think of it on that basis (as his idealism was somewhat reactionary to the materialists of his day, particularly John Locke and his material substratum that apparently possessed the qualities of the objects that we perceived)—while Kant on the other hand threaded the needle and acknowledged there was some sort of an external world, but it’s ultimately unknowable due to how our mind structures and colors reality inside the lines for us
i think Kant’s idealism is stronger on the basis of not needing some sort of universal perceiver (or God) to ground all of reality together
- Oct 1, 2023·1 replyX7JQ9L2MF4A8Z
Kant and Berkeley are somewhat reminiscent of one another, but the core distinction I see between the two of them is particularly the noumenon, Berkeley essentially said there was nothing more than ideas that are perceived within the external world and there was essentially nothing more to think of it on that basis (as his idealism was somewhat reactionary to the materialists of his day, particularly John Locke and his material substratum that apparently possessed the qualities of the objects that we perceived)—while Kant on the other hand threaded the needle and acknowledged there was some sort of an external world, but it’s ultimately unknowable due to how our mind structures and colors reality inside the lines for us
i think Kant’s idealism is stronger on the basis of not needing some sort of universal perceiver (or God) to ground all of reality together
this is my understanding of the distinction as well but I'm not as well read on Berkeley.
- Oct 1, 2023·2 repliesVery Based
this is my understanding of the distinction as well but I'm not as well read on Berkeley.
you can start with his Three Dialogues between Hylas and Philonous, he is a lot more straightforward and way easier to read than Kant
Oct 1, 2023·1 replyAny philosophies based on life being a comedy?