Philosophy Thread 🏛️

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  • Oct 1, 2023
    TTU

    Any philosophies based on life being a comedy?

    Diogenes maybe. I don't know if he thought life was a comedy but his life sure was comical.

  • Oct 1, 2023
    X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    you can start with his Three Dialogues between Hylas and Philonous, he is a lot more straightforward and way easier to read than Kant

    thanks brother

  • Oct 1, 2023
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    X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    you can start with his Three Dialogues between Hylas and Philonous, he is a lot more straightforward and way easier to read than Kant

    after reading some more this evening on Berkeley and Locke it's starting to come together quite a bit more for me. My mother studied Locke at York and Cambridge but for whatever reason he's a philosopher I haven't delved deep enough into. Which is unfortunate because he laid so much of the groundwork for the Enlightenment. It's hard to know whether to dedicate a month to learning about a philosopher or a year. With so much going on in my life I have to just make it a hobby at this point. And then once I start practicing Eastern Spirituality the Western philosophers start to feel less applicable to my life. Did you have an undergrad in philosophy or is yours just a hobby like mine?

  • Oct 1, 2023

    kind of rambling at this point

  • Oct 1, 2023

    at the end of the day i'm just an average iq guy trying to make sense of it all

  • Oct 2, 2023

    Anyone have some good intro movies/books/podcast to philosophy?

  • Oct 2, 2023

    GOATs

  • Oct 2, 2023
    X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    1) i would personally recommend you to simply investigate questions that you might have, and seek out what fields of philosophy correlates with them, you could even really start on a Wikipedia rabbit hole to get a sort of general briefing, there will most likely be positions related to the questions that you have (e.g. is math independent from a human mind? if you think it is, you would be a mathematical realist, if you do not then, you would be a mathematical anti-realist)

    2) through investigating the questions you have, there will be a wealth of books and/or philosophers that have written about these questions and/or address them in their writings

    above all else i would just recommend going with whatever you’re curious about versus feeling some sort of duty to read one particular philosopher, you’ll get burned out—once you have a decent foundation in one aspect of philosophy knowledge wise, it’ll allow you to start connecting the dots in between each field (and tbh, different sections of philosophy are rarely wholly just stuck to their particular subject when they’re being discussed about on length, like metaphysics and epistemology are pretty fairly intertwined as far as i can see)

    Sorry for taking so long to get back to you

    First off, I really appreciate this response because it's really easy to feel that I have no ability to ask meaningful questions and learn and think critically so you speaking to the importance of that being foundational to all of this means a lot

    What I'm really getting at is that finding that wealth of knowledge/philosophers seems really difficult.

    I've been thinking about this in a lot of different areas of interest but finding a start point/having multiple critical viewpoints of material/finding material beyond the most well known classics just seems impossible a lot of the time

    But I think a large part of that is the importance of community when it comes to study, learning and most things in life...really appreciate this thread because of that

  • Oct 2, 2023
    Choking

    Good start points imo are the greeks since most western philosophy follows from them or the master of suspicion (Marx, Nietsczhe, Freud) since they don’t require reading other philosopher as much to understand them compared to someone like Kant who you kinda need a decent understanding of the empiricists and rationalists before and with them you can decide after if u wanna go back and see what they were influenced by or go forward to understand more contemporary discussions.

    The way i’d recommend is ignore all that bs and just start with whoever ur interested in no matter how hard they are or easy they are and don’t be afraid to fail to understand someone or not and revisit them later. Think of learning philosophy as a root system where you might go into one direction then get stuck so you decide to read someone else changing the direction of the root and you can extend the former root direction when you’re ready to attempt that topic/philosopher once again.

    https://plato.stanford.edu/
    this website is a good source just to search up whoever ur interested in read up on a bit before you wanna tackle their work i recommend just searching up whoever ur interested and then checking out their work after

    Thank you so much for this

  • Oct 2, 2023
    Yuzzy

    ChatGPT honestly

    I have GPT4 lemme know if you've got something u want me to ask it

    I was wondering why people kept accusing your posts of being chatGPT but I guess they weren't lying

    Appreciate it though and I'll probably take you up on that at some point

  • Oct 2, 2023
    Very Based

    after reading some more this evening on Berkeley and Locke it's starting to come together quite a bit more for me. My mother studied Locke at York and Cambridge but for whatever reason he's a philosopher I haven't delved deep enough into. Which is unfortunate because he laid so much of the groundwork for the Enlightenment. It's hard to know whether to dedicate a month to learning about a philosopher or a year. With so much going on in my life I have to just make it a hobby at this point. And then once I start practicing Eastern Spirituality the Western philosophers start to feel less applicable to my life. Did you have an undergrad in philosophy or is yours just a hobby like mine?

    nah complete hobby just like yours, albeit i took an morality & ethics class to fulfill a humanity requirement or whatever for my major

  • Oct 3, 2023
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    @PhilipMorris did they ban you or did you just get rid of the avi?

  • Oct 3, 2023
    Skinn Foley

    @PhilipMorris did they ban you or did you just get rid of the avi?

    Just got rid of my avy for some dumbass reason

  • Oct 5, 2023

    Finished meditations is Seneca worth a read?

  • Oct 27, 2023
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    might get into Kierkegaard

  • Nov 22, 2023
    X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    might get into Kierkegaard

    i been meaning to

  • Nov 22, 2023

    currently working my way up from the republic

    what a beautiful thing philosophy is

  • Nov 25, 2023
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    @op I saw you mention Tamas in another thread

    Looked it up because I was unfamiliar, didn't know about all of this:

    en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_philosophy

    But now that I think about it I think @Very_Based has mentioned it in this thread too

    Is there any place you'd recommend starting if I wanted to look into this more?

  • Nov 26, 2023
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    MrMudManMood

    @op I saw you mention Tamas in another thread

    Looked it up because I was unfamiliar, didn't know about all of this:

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindu_philosophy

    But now that I think about it I think @Very_Based has mentioned it in this thread too

    Is there any place you'd recommend starting if I wanted to look into this more?

    Journey from Many to One / Essentials of Advaita Vedanta

    Swami Bhaskarananda

    hindupedia is a good place too

  • Nov 27, 2023
    X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    Journey from Many to One / Essentials of Advaita Vedanta

    Swami Bhaskarananda

    hindupedia is a good place too

    Thank you

    Before I dive in, is there anything you can tell me about what Hindu philosophy is trying to address? If not that, just anything in general I should keep in mind

    Legit know nothing about this

  • Nov 28, 2023
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    @simulacrum i had a response but they locked up the thread

    i think that reconciliation that you speak of can be found in monistic panentheism, which is largely found exemplified within Hinduism (or Advaita) or monist system like Mahayana Buddhism and/or the Yogacara school kinda sorta

    however, if God does emanate the world, at least from the Abrahamic lens it would have to follow that either the material is fundamental, or the mind/spirit or whatever else has to be fundamental, the only way this needle can be threaded (from what i can see, anyways) is non-dualism, which doesn’t fit too homely in Christianity, Islam, Judaism etc. for the most part (or, is at least very contested/dissonant with the mainstream interpretations of these systems)

    Advaita rejects this dichotomy and just posits that the world is Brahman, but the Brahman is simultaneously beyond the material world as well, and is fundamentally other to our perception, the world is unreal as so far as it isn’t eternal—things that we consider material, or properties of something that is material are largely foisted upon the world, versus something that actually inheres within these objects themselves

  • Nov 28, 2023
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    F*** philosophy. Just a bunch of pedophiles writing s*** to make useless idiots feel good about themselves.

  • Nov 28, 2023
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    @edumist that thread got locked so I'm posting here

    I'm unsure whether there is a larger school of thought behind the terms of Idealism and Materialism, but when I critique/defend one or the other, I'm talking about how they are defined under Marxism

    Idealism in the Marxist school of thought is referring to the concept that many, including the entirety of western civilization, have adopted, in that they believe human social development, behavior, and intellect are derived from the spontaneously generated ideas of man itself, either divorced from material reality or without any necessary connection to material reality.

    Materialism in the Marxist school of thought is referring to the concept that man's intellectual development, social development, and behavior, are chiefly informed by man's relationship with and understanding of the material world. That's it lol, it doesn't attempt to make a definitive statement about religion one way or another and Marx actually references the Bible as part of his inspiration for The German Ideology, which may be his most important body of work in understanding Dialectical and Historical Materialism

  • Nov 28, 2023
    X7JQ9L2MF4A8Z

    @simulacrum i had a response but they locked up the thread

    i think that reconciliation that you speak of can be found in monistic panentheism, which is largely found exemplified within Hinduism (or Advaita) or monist system like Mahayana Buddhism and/or the Yogacara school kinda sorta

    however, if God does emanate the world, at least from the Abrahamic lens it would have to follow that either the material is fundamental, or the mind/spirit or whatever else has to be fundamental, the only way this needle can be threaded (from what i can see, anyways) is non-dualism, which doesn’t fit too homely in Christianity, Islam, Judaism etc. for the most part (or, is at least very contested/dissonant with the mainstream interpretations of these systems)

    Advaita rejects this dichotomy and just posits that the world is Brahman, but the Brahman is simultaneously beyond the material world as well, and is fundamentally other to our perception, the world is unreal as so far as it isn’t eternal—things that we consider material, or properties of something that is material are largely foisted upon the world, versus something that actually inheres within these objects themselves

    I was writing my s*** out when you tagged me in this

  • Nov 28, 2023
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    Plight

    F*** philosophy. Just a bunch of pedophiles writing s*** to make useless idiots feel good about themselves.

    Do you have any words written in sharpie marker on the outside of your car and/or are you flying a flag on your car as well?

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