only in rap do you have people still calling artists that came into the scene a full 10 years ago new school

these niggas are turning 30 and folks calling them new school like they still 20

s*** be like calling anthony davis new school player of the nba

Not even kind of he just is complete ass

Sir Cartier> Playboi

Yo what?

To be fair his popularity really only hit recently so that's why I associate it with new Gen music

I agree with this as well, the genre as a whole is uncreative, devolving and lowering the skill barrier, alot. I somewhat praise Carti, but he's still a product of the times. Rap just feels like the most immature genre right now, when it had so much to offer, depth and artistry wise, let's say 10 yrs ago.

We live in a time that aesthetics matter more than the music and he has the aesthetics on lock

being new not popularity related that's just being mainstream

new is like that one poster that's always posting random ass young soundcloud people

It sucks, I still like carti (just don't love wlr as much as some), but at this point he isn't doing anything to help the genre but almost seems like he's now actively hurting it, but because of the general lack of music

I f*** with his features but god knows i ain’t bumping his solo s***

Right and I get what you're saying but he is treated like a new gen/new wave artist.

But you're right about those Melz rappers though, those are all "new". As in brand new.

It sucks cause he clearly has the skills to make good rap music that appeals to everyone. He just clearly targets the younger audience with aesthetic bait and style over actual music.

Agreed, but I still like most of his music as a millennial anyways lol

He's like the inverse of waka/Gucci/1017 in 2010-2014. Extreme influence, everyone wants to copy, and everyone is listening. But 1017 released 100s of tapes in that era, has opium overall even released 10? I want to blame streaming and the death of DatPiff which plays a huge role too, but we all lost as a result. Now next to no one is doing multiple tapes a month let alone 1 year and it seems like there's less creativity because it's more of a risk to deviate

Carti is definitely a product of our times. But at the same time, he isn't the worst offender of uninspired/uncreative music going on now. Its kinda sad, but that's pretty much what Hip Hop is now, the decline started in 2014 and now it's 2024.
The kids rapping today grew up on alot of the subpar s***.

Same

If you really got a problem we can handle that problem yea
body to body

Id say the decline was really starting 2018-19. 2014-17 had immense amounts of originality and new sounds were being invented on like a monthly basis

If you mean purely just the rapping piece of hip hop music, sure, but we were still seeing big evolutions in sound on top of just a lot more music being put out. Rappers were less afraid to take risks until the death of DatPiff/SoundCloud so we were seeing actual experimentation on the music front. Now it feels like experimentation on the release or "aura" of a musician itself instead of music

It makes the whole "I am music thing" so ironic because carti isn't wrong. This is unfortunately what mainstream "music" is now, even if barely has anything to do with the actual music

He invented music and now we don't want him as the leader of music?

horrible comments and thread

More like David Poop

This site so f***ing dusty man.

He’s whatever but his fans are super annoying

This is one of his best songs wild ppl don’t know it