Jul 3, 2021·1 reply
Synopsisi think by far lenin is the most eye opening tho, nothing really quite as good as state and revolution and imperialism if we're just accounting for the classical ones
those on my next up in terms of classics, about halfway through capital vol. 1 rn. also reading the companion to capital by david harvey at the same time so it's taking longer but def worth it to get a deeper understanding
- Jul 3, 2021JMC
those on my next up in terms of classics, about halfway through capital vol. 1 rn. also reading the companion to capital by david harvey at the same time so it's taking longer but def worth it to get a deeper understanding
Tbh I skipped the companion lol. But def read everything by lenin. None of it super long so that's a plus
Jul 3, 2021reading less and less bc of i recently got a job
currently reading "from victory to defeat" by pao-yu ching
- Jul 3, 2021·1 reply
MangoFinished Red Acropolis, Black Terror by André Gerolymatos on the Greek Civil War as a supplement to reading Michael McClintock's Instruments of Statecraft: U.S. Guerilla Warfare, Counter-Insurgency, Counter-Terrorism, 1940-1990 . Gerolymatos is a "nonpartisan" which just means he takes people at their word and in good faith way too often. McClintock's book is a very strong survey of US military intervention post WWII. It's kind of technical in its a***ysis of military doctrine, but the broader narrative and general dynamic of the interventions are there. The way he paints the Kennedy administrations view of warfare is not the same as what I've heard from his eulogists.
Starting Peter Dale Scott's Deep Politics and the Death of JFK. I've already read some John Newman, and listened to some conversations between James DiEugenio and Dave Emory. I also recently finished James Ellory's fictional take with American Tabloid. Scott offers a compelling frame of a***ysis that goes beyond the true crime aspect of the case. I probably should have started with him before reading Paul Williams' Gladio. This is like the 101 course for repressed history and power relations.
the same Greek Civil War that Stalin said he wouldn’t interfere in? I always was disappointed in his lack of support towards international movements. wonder how the greek politics is affected by the civil war to this day i heard they have strong leftist movements to this day
- Jul 3, 2021·1 reply
also if anyone the best spot to get nkrumahs neo-colionalism let me know
- Jul 3, 2021·edited·1 replyWomanpuncher69
the same Greek Civil War that Stalin said he wouldn’t interfere in? I always was disappointed in his lack of support towards international movements. wonder how the greek politics is affected by the civil war to this day i heard they have strong leftist movements to this day
Eh, Stalin factored into it very little. I think it's mainly used to scapegoat the Soviet Union when first Germany and then Britain and finally the US oversaw these "civil wars". Focusing on the Soviet Union's inaction while not having a Navy or any interest in more warfare after the casualties they sustained in WWII is mind boggling. Without Churchill's stubborn resolve the popular resistance would have won. The leader of the provisional government was ready to concede. Britain forced his hand and waged the war for him in a lot of regards. Then the US picked up the mantle. It's worth noting that Britain actually drummed up the popular resistance and supported it under Nazi occupation. It's similar to when the US used the peasantry in the Philippines to drive out the Japanese, then totally flip flopped and worked with the ruling class to repress that peasantry.
The book isn't really a good resource on the state of the left as it flip flops between crediting the size of the popular resistance to its communist roots being hidden while blaming any atrocity or indiscretion on the nature of the party. I have the names of a few leftist historians on the subject whose work I want to consult before I speak on much. After the December Uprising failed, the popular resistance were demonized and heavily repressed. They even had special concentration camps of their own. It took decades for them to rebound politically. The book actually concludes talking about a leftist terror cell that was active there for decades carrying out assassinations if that tells you anything about the nature of the book. It calls leftist ideology archaic when one of the most prominent modern marxists, Varoufakis, is from Greece lol.
- Jul 3, 2021Womanpuncher69
just finished Wretched of Earth took a while since i went through a mood of not reading, wish i was smarter or more educated would love to compare what i learned from the book to the Palestine National Liberation also got me interested in reading about Hamas and seeing if anything Fanon said about national parties the pros and cons apply to them.
Also interested in applying the book to Canada and America and the mess decolonization would be here in regards to native americans and black people.
Thinking about reading more Stalin next only text i read from him are about the National Question thinking about reading Foundation of Leninism next or Historical Materialism, after that read Mao since i’ve only read short essays from him like Combat Liberalism and Oppose Book Worhsip.
After that i’m unsure i wanna read some modern works like Towards a new Socialism or stuff about planned economies with computers, read the beast of Das Kapital since i’ve only read a summary or Black Skins and White Masks.
forgot to even mention the ending case studies of Wretched of Earth holy s*** were they awful to read through like in the sense that it was awful for anyone to experience any of those experiences. Reading them you can truly feel how Decolonisation can only be sadly always a violent phenomenon and the hallowing implication that has for regions like North America to ever truly achieve justice for Native Americans and African Americans, then again if your Marxist you already accepted that fact cause you know revolutions and all that, but one in the Americas are gonna have to deal with this immediately if there ever is one. And with the CPUSA from my knowledge hasn't really answered this other than the United States staying the same but communist is depressing how weak the left is over here.
- Jul 3, 2021·1 replyMango
Eh, Stalin factored into it very little. I think it's mainly used to scapegoat the Soviet Union when first Germany and then Britain and finally the US oversaw these "civil wars". Focusing on the Soviet Union's inaction while not having a Navy or any interest in more warfare after the casualties they sustained in WWII is mind boggling. Without Churchill's stubborn resolve the popular resistance would have won. The leader of the provisional government was ready to concede. Britain forced his hand and waged the war for him in a lot of regards. Then the US picked up the mantle. It's worth noting that Britain actually drummed up the popular resistance and supported it under Nazi occupation. It's similar to when the US used the peasantry in the Philippines to drive out the Japanese, then totally flip flopped and worked with the ruling class to repress that peasantry.
The book isn't really a good resource on the state of the left as it flip flops between crediting the size of the popular resistance to its communist roots being hidden while blaming any atrocity or indiscretion on the nature of the party. I have the names of a few leftist historians on the subject whose work I want to consult before I speak on much. After the December Uprising failed, the popular resistance were demonized and heavily repressed. They even had special concentration camps of their own. It took decades for them to rebound politically. The book actually concludes talking about a leftist terror cell that was active there for decades carrying out assassinations if that tells you anything about the nature of the book. It calls leftist ideology archaic when one of the most prominent modern marxists, Varoufakis, is from Greece lol.
thx for the extra info, I didnt know much about the event other than I guess being a wikepedia historian on it (🤢), I was also thinking of the Spanish civil war and how that turned out, Stalin of course isn't the sole blame, guess im just being idealist and wishing that the left could just work together without problems which of course isn't realistic at all. I dont know much about the Spanish Civil War as well outside of basic s*** as well.At the end its useless to debate what should have happened and we should just learn from em.
- Jul 3, 2021Womanpuncher69
thx for the extra info, I didnt know much about the event other than I guess being a wikepedia historian on it (🤢), I was also thinking of the Spanish civil war and how that turned out, Stalin of course isn't the sole blame, guess im just being idealist and wishing that the left could just work together without problems which of course isn't realistic at all. I dont know much about the Spanish Civil War as well outside of basic s*** as well.At the end its useless to debate what should have happened and we should just learn from em.
Well the book does blame Stalin and call some of the resistance heads puppets for him. I just find it super unconvincing. These wars were all fought while Greece was occupied by foreign powers. The Soviet Union was like the only great power that didn't occupy them. It's such a weird route to take the critique. The KKE, the communist party that founded the popular resistance, actually killed some rival leftists themselves. There are always competing factions and such. That's just the nature of political struggle. Of course in times of depression and war that struggle turns bloody.
- Jul 3, 2021Synopsis
also if anyone the best spot to get nkrumahs neo-colionalism let me know
- Jul 3, 2021·1 reply
my gf bought it from here
bookdepository.com/Neo-Colonialism/9780901787231?utm_medium=api&utm_campaign=Bookfindercom&a_aid=Bookfinder&utm_term=9780901787231&utm_content=Neo-Colonialism&utm_source=book_link&selectCurrency=USDtook a minute to come but it came and its cheapest option
- Jul 3, 2021·1 replyspace0cadet
my gf bought it from here
https://www.bookdepository.com/Neo-Colonialism/9780901787231?utm_medium=api&utm_campaign=Bookfindercom&a_aid=Bookfinder&utm_term=9780901787231&utm_content=Neo-Colonialism&utm_source=book_link&selectCurrency=USDtook a minute to come but it came and its cheapest option
how long is a minute cuz i ordered it
- Jul 3, 2021Synopsis
how long is a minute cuz i ordered it
she just said a couple weeks
- Jul 3, 2021·1 reply
Picked up a couple of books on Rome. Really want to delve into their government structure and what caused certain events to take place. Any book and video recs, pleases send em.
- Jul 3, 2021·1 replyBestowed
Picked up a couple of books on Rome. Really want to delve into their government structure and what caused certain events to take place. Any book and video recs, pleases send em.
- Jul 4, 2021space0cadet
Awesome thanks
- Jul 5, 2021
any books on neocolonialism?
seems like theres a lot of books on transition btwn fuedalism and capitalism but not colonialism and neocolonialism
obviously other than nkrumah
currently reading
super good, would 100% reccmend it
Jul 5, 2021Real for having Settlers in the OP
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Jul 5, 2021·2 repliesjust started wretched of the earth
- Jul 5, 2021p apollo
just started wretched of the earth
just finished it great book the ending where he talks about patients he had is horrifying
- Jul 5, 2021
Never knew i could hate the french more than before but the wretched of the earth manage to make it happen lol
- Jul 6, 2021p apollo
just started wretched of the earth
def life changing
- Jul 9, 2021·edited·2 replies
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