has anyone else read Giorgio Agamben's works and if so recommendations besides H****Sacer? I understand his second biggest work is State of Exception but I've also heard it's a waste of time to read if you've already read H****Sacer so idk

Sounds familiar, but I haven't read his work, I know he has important concepts, particularly his own take on Foucault's biopolitics

yeah his entire shtick is biopolitics

edit: its not really the same as foucault though it just uses the same word

This big ass book

It's a compilation of all the H****Sacer volumes

amazon.com/Homo-Sacer-Sovereign-Meridian-Aesthetics/dp/0804732183

this was the one i had read specifically

I got to get through all the books I got already before I get more stuff

@krishna_bound thoughts on tiqqun?

thought you were asking about the jewish concept of Tikkun Olam for a sec apparently that's actually where they got the name from according to wikipedia tho, didn't know that. haven't read it tbh but i like Debord/Society of Spectacle a lot, so i'll check it out if it extrapolates from that

Fanon is a bit repetitive in WOTE, and it gets a bit tiring to read through and the chapters are long

Maybe i’m just being pedantic

Good book so far though, I can definitely see how groundbreaking it was for its time and context

Anyone read The Invisible Bridge by Perlstein?

felt the same as reading it was a slug tbh

Libertarian book suggestions?

I admire Fanon’s Marxist-Humanist approach, more akin to a helpful sociology, rather than a rigid and mechanistic framework found in other Marxist lines of thought.

State of Exception I thought indeed to be not too different from what's already in H****Sacer. Stasis (on civil war) in turn is also kind of similar. The Kingdom and the Glory - where the h****sacer project takes a thoroughly theological turn - I think is Agamben's most interesting, while What Is an Apparatus? outlines a similar argument in much briefer and more political terms. (The Highest Poverty and The Use of Bodies are the other chief works of h****sacer, but I haven't read those.)

thanks for this, gonna look into the latter two as I haven't read over those yet

not a libertarian myself but the usual writers cited by libertarians & ancaps are typically from rothbard, friedman, mises, and hayek. there's also like locke (obv). left-libertarianism & anarchism (in the US at least and academically lol) is usually associated commonly with like (among many others), emma goldman and robert nozick.
im not really a fan of these myself personally because i dont fall under that ideological umbrella (and would rather rec other ideological stuff lol), but you could read Hayek's Road To Serfdom, literally just anything from Mises early career (1910-1950) - most cited is generally Human Action or Liberalismus , Rothbard's For A New Liberty or Ethics of Liberty, or you could always just read Thoreau's stuff like Civil Disobedience. alternatively for something more obscure you could read Albert Nock's stuff, like The Myth of a Guilty Nation

Thanks! 🙏

I love reading all this whacky fascist stuff. Don’t agree or sympathize with it, just interesting from a historical perspective. Evola’s stuff is fascinating, he does all this research on the ancient world to make this really vivid description of what he considers eternal values. His stuff is almost interesting in the way fantastical fiction is. Evola is a bit more right wing than fascists in a lot of ways tho. the above guy mentioned Imperium, and I think that’s a lot better to grasp their worldview.

Saw the trans athlete thread and thought starting Society of the Spectacle, just reminded me of that even if doesnt relate

wait this isnt the nick land thread

nvm f*** that got two chapters in and i barely understand anything i’m reading Lukac instead

The oeuvre of James C Scott

Not sure if troll 🧌