Dec 8, 2021
LouThe world would be safer if every country had one (1) nuke
Yeah but only till one decides to have 2 or 3 or 3000
Dec 8, 2021https://twitter.com/Ukraine/status/1275391304181125121TragedyBerlusconiThere are nazis in Ukraine and Russia but honestly Russia has it even worse
- Dec 8, 2021·editedhttps://twitter.com/Ukraine/status/1275391304181125121TragedyBerlusconi
There are nazis in Ukraine and Russia but honestly Russia has it even worse
Imagine conquering 1/5 of the world for your descendants to end up like this
Tsarists and Soviets both btfo
- Dec 8, 2021·2 replies
Crimea is Turkey
Dec 8, 2021
sponge bob
lmao they really doin this twitter s***thats gone be humans downfall is trying to appeal thru twitter meme culture
WW3 gonna start from twitter on a whim
- Dec 8, 2021Lou
Ukraine shoulda never given up it’s nukes
They never had the codes to arm them apparently. They tried and failed to crack the security, when that didn’t work, they sold them. We gave them more than 400 million dollars, and they turned the warheads over to Russia to be dismantled.
- Dec 8, 2021·2 repliesOffline
Crimea is Turkey
ain’t grey wolves some fascist turkey s***
- Dec 8, 2021Womanpuncher69
ain’t grey wolves some fascist turkey s***
Yea lmao
- Dec 8, 2021·1 replyWomanpuncher69
ain’t grey wolves some fascist turkey s***
Since the wolf is the eternal symbol of the Turkish people, certain groups may try (unsuccessfully!) to attach themselves to it to gain support, as a leech gains sustenance from attaching itself to a person, but they do not represent the venerable Recep Tayyip Erdogan nor the glorious Republic of Turkey!
Dec 8, 2021OfflineCrimea is Turkey
this will be turkey in 2025
- Dec 8, 2021
Dec 8, 2021OfflineSince the wolf is the eternal symbol of the Turkish people, certain groups may try (unsuccessfully!) to attach themselves to it to gain support, as a leech gains sustenance from attaching itself to a person, but they do not represent the venerable Recep Tayyip Erdogan nor the glorious Republic of Turkey!
You seriously unironically d***riding Erdogan lol?
- Dec 9, 2021·1 reply
In the interest of balance i must account for the russian perspective
From the view of the russian public and establishment, since the fall of the soviet union the USA has treated russia as a defeated adversary rather than a partner democracy. they believe the treatment of russia through harsh measures, lack of financial aid and outright countering its objectives as treatment worse than that received by post war germany and japan.
They then wonder why america seeks to build and advance its ideology in states that were once a part of the Russian empire, and view america and the wests moves as them acting well out of turn and in disregard of russian interest.
In this way, i believe the west is partially at fault, and respect for ukrainian sovereignty is a two way street. This is a case study in liberal hubris.
The neo-realist scholar John Mearsheimer proposes Ukraine as a strictly neutral buffer as a potential solution to the flashpoint.
What do we think?
I am capable of assessing standpoints different to my own, while i am pro ukraine, i can understand the anxiety within russia, that such dismemberment and incursion may one day affect the territory of the federation itself
- Dec 9, 2021·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
In the interest of balance i must account for the russian perspective
From the view of the russian public and establishment, since the fall of the soviet union the USA has treated russia as a defeated adversary rather than a partner democracy. they believe the treatment of russia through harsh measures, lack of financial aid and outright countering its objectives as treatment worse than that received by post war germany and japan.
They then wonder why america seeks to build and advance its ideology in states that were once a part of the Russian empire, and view america and the wests moves as them acting well out of turn and in disregard of russian interest.
In this way, i believe the west is partially at fault, and respect for ukrainian sovereignty is a two way street. This is a case study in liberal hubris.
The neo-realist scholar John Mearsheimer proposes Ukraine as a strictly neutral buffer as a potential solution to the flashpoint.
What do we think?
I am capable of assessing standpoints different to my own, while i am pro ukraine, i can understand the anxiety within russia, that such dismemberment and incursion may one day affect the territory of the federation itself
Can't forget to mention that the US broke the promise of no further NATO expansion towards Russia and the Russian Sevastopol naval base.
- Dec 9, 2021·1 replyScratchin Mamba
Can't forget to mention that the US broke the promise of no further NATO expansion towards Russia and the Russian Sevastopol naval base.
Regarding which members? Ukraine is not a nato member, if you mean the baltics then sure but I wasn't sure
- Dec 9, 2021·1 replyTragedyBerlusconi
Regarding which members? Ukraine is not a nato member, if you mean the baltics then sure but I wasn't sure
No Ukraine isn't a NATO member yet, but one of the goals of US involvement in Ukraine is to have them join NATO.
During the negotiations for German reunification, the US pledged that NATO would not expand any farther into the East in general.
Russia was never gonna let the Sevastopol naval base falling under NATO, that's why they annexed Crimea.
- Dec 9, 2021·2 repliesScratchin Mamba
No Ukraine isn't a NATO member yet, but one of the goals of US involvement in Ukraine is to have them join NATO.
During the negotiations for German reunification, the US pledged that NATO would not expand any farther into the East in general.
Russia was never gonna let the Sevastopol naval base falling under NATO, that's why they annexed Crimea.
the us does not want ukraine to acceed to nato now if ever due to the precise risk of inflaming tensions with russia. whether this stance is new post 2014, or has been their line along i dont know
Quote from nato:
It is these conversations that may have left some Soviet politicians with the impression that NATO enlargement, which started with the admission of the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland in 1999, had been a breach of these Western commitments. Some statements of Western politicians – particularly German Foreign Minister Hans Dietrich Genscher and his American counterpart James A. Baker – can indeed be interpreted as a general rejection of any NATO enlargement beyond East Germany. However, these statements were made in the context of the negotiations on German reunification, and the Soviet interlocutors never specified their concerns. In the crucial “2+4” negotiations, which finally led Gorbachev to accept a unified Germany in NATO in July 1990, the issue was never raised. As former Soviet Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze later put it, the idea of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact dissolving and NATO taking in former Warsaw Pact members was beyond the imagination of the protagonists at the time.
- Dec 9, 2021TragedyBerlusconi
the us does not want ukraine to acceed to nato now if ever due to the precise risk of inflaming tensions with russia. whether this stance is new post 2014, or has been their line along i dont know
Quote from nato:
It is these conversations that may have left some Soviet politicians with the impression that NATO enlargement, which started with the admission of the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland in 1999, had been a breach of these Western commitments. Some statements of Western politicians – particularly German Foreign Minister Hans Dietrich Genscher and his American counterpart James A. Baker – can indeed be interpreted as a general rejection of any NATO enlargement beyond East Germany. However, these statements were made in the context of the negotiations on German reunification, and the Soviet interlocutors never specified their concerns. In the crucial “2+4” negotiations, which finally led Gorbachev to accept a unified Germany in NATO in July 1990, the issue was never raised. As former Soviet Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze later put it, the idea of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact dissolving and NATO taking in former Warsaw Pact members was beyond the imagination of the protagonists at the time.
The US absolutely does want Ukraine to join NATO:
sofrep.com/news/united-states-supports-ukraines-move-to-nato
There were already plans for Ukraine to enter a membership action plan to join NATO in 2008, and in 2021 NATO leaders reiterated that decision.
Dec 9, 2021·1 reply
- Dec 9, 2021TragedyBerlusconi
the us does not want ukraine to acceed to nato now if ever due to the precise risk of inflaming tensions with russia. whether this stance is new post 2014, or has been their line along i dont know
Quote from nato:
It is these conversations that may have left some Soviet politicians with the impression that NATO enlargement, which started with the admission of the Czech Republic, Hungary and Poland in 1999, had been a breach of these Western commitments. Some statements of Western politicians – particularly German Foreign Minister Hans Dietrich Genscher and his American counterpart James A. Baker – can indeed be interpreted as a general rejection of any NATO enlargement beyond East Germany. However, these statements were made in the context of the negotiations on German reunification, and the Soviet interlocutors never specified their concerns. In the crucial “2+4” negotiations, which finally led Gorbachev to accept a unified Germany in NATO in July 1990, the issue was never raised. As former Soviet Foreign Minister Eduard Shevardnadze later put it, the idea of the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact dissolving and NATO taking in former Warsaw Pact members was beyond the imagination of the protagonists at the time.
Also that quote basically says that because Gorbachev didn't raise the point again in July, their promise in May no longer counts or something? That's a real childish argument lmao.
They broke their pledge there really is no denying that.
- Dec 9, 2021lnstinct
- Dec 9, 2021·3 replies
- Dec 9, 2021·1 replyhttps://twitter.com/JerryDunleavy/status/1468953708801232900krishna bound
- Dec 9, 2021·1 replyamericana
my mind is absolutely broken i saw the ad for capstan in the bottom corner and thought that said Ancapistan
