Our resident state department spokesperson

Nah youre in the wrong on this one, sorry

You cant just preclude an invasion because someone says that they won't

You likewise can't claim an invasion is inevitable because there are troops nearby, it could be an exercise or way of gauging an adversaries commitment

This is established wisdom

Russia owns up to its usage of hybrid warfare itself, the gerasimov doctrine was released in 2013

How much u wanna bet on russia invading Ukraine

I won't bet anything because I don't believe it is inevitable, simply believe it is not outside of the range of possibility

Believing it to be possible does not mean I'm a state department shill, just as you saying russia won't invade doesn't make you a kremlin shill

The point is to discuss and share perspectives. Claiming that anyone who holds Russia may be underhanded is s state dept shill is simply childish

Samantha Powers body pillow. Climbing down from the "Wuhan is the holocaust 2.0" crucifix really breaks a man

the fact that in this thread ive advocated making ukraine a neutral buffer (which means no nato membership), cession of special powers to donbas, and actively outlined the russian perspective and people think im a state dept shill for not ruling out the possibility that russia might incur upon ukrainian territory as they have literally done before.

Really shows who is acting in good faith and who isnt

Russia issues a list of demands

theguardian.com/world/2021/dec/17/russia-issues-list-demands-tensions-europe-ukraine-nato

It's really interesting hearing Ukranians and Russians talk bout this. The way they d***ride their countries is crazy. Nationalism is really a cancer

Ain’t nothing gon happen you have to be dum dum to think something will

Close to 100,000 Russian troops at Ukrainian border

nytimes.com/live/2022/01/12/world/russia-ukraine-nato-us

Talks so far lack a breakthrough and are close to being wrapped upb

Russia has put forward a highly contentious list of security guarantees it says it wants the west to agree to in order to lower tensions in Europe and defuse the crisis over Ukraine, including many elements that have already been ruled out.

The demands include a ban on Ukraine entering Nato and a limit to the deployment of troops and weapons to Nato’s eastern flank, in effect returning Nato forces to where they were stationed in 1997, before an eastward expansion.

The eight-point draft treaty was released by Russia’s foreign ministry as its forces massed within striking distance of Ukraine’s borders. Moscow said ignoring its interests would lead to a “military response” similar to the Cuban missile crisis of 1962.

Sanctions to be levied on Russian state officials

Are sanctions going to be an effective deterrent you think? I personally don’t, just curious what y’all think

no, especially if china doesn't care about the invasion

nato moved in too late

Sanctions won’t affect anyone but the normal population and will only invigorate their animosity

The sanctions are aimed explicitly at top officials, I will re read the article to check

I don't know

Sanctions on the general population Stoke anger among the public for sure, or often do

I don't support making ordinary peoples lives harder

If they're on top brass and oligarchs then sanction away, they are scum of the earth

reuters.com/world/europe/expect-worst-ukraine-hit-by-cyberattack-russia-moves-more-troops-2022-01-14

Ukraine hit by cyber attack

welp, i think we can't escape from it.

feel like there will be an invasion before the end of february

Wonder what draft conditions are gonna look like

Ah f***

You are INSANE if you think Russia wants to invade Ukraine

What do they gain? Ukraine is an economic s*** hole... they would have to maintain power over a mostly hostile population... theyd get hit with Iran levels of sanctions

Thankfully Putin is too smart to draw his country into what would be their version of Vietnam

Russia might not invade at all, it's all speculative

But if they did I doubt they'd want the whole thing