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  • Feb 22, 2022
    KOLLAPS

    dude why r u pretending that russia is not a world force the US should be concerned over?

    i get that u hate america but since u keep asking me to be objective (which i think ive demonstrated that i really am trying to be) why cant u be objective and think of a single reason why an organization like NATO might exist?

    even if u disagree with its goals, ur acting as if NATO was created to bully Russia for 0 reason, completely unprovoked

    If it wasn’t created to directly oppose Russia/the USSR, how come they were the only applicant who was rejected back in the 1950’s

  • Feb 22, 2022
    KOLLAPS

    whoever starts violence first is immoral

    Lmfao

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    KOLLAPS

    dude why r u pretending that russia is not a world force the US should be concerned over?

    i get that u hate america but since u keep asking me to be objective (which i think ive demonstrated that i really am trying to be) why cant u be objective and think of a single reason why an organization like NATO might exist?

    even if u disagree with its goals, ur acting as if NATO was created to bully Russia for 0 reason, completely unprovoked

    It's not just the mere existence of NATO, it's the expansion to their borders and Russian support for Ukraine (including Ukrainian Nazis) in their proxy war against Russia that's provoking Russia.

    Russia isn't asking for NATO to be abolished lol

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    KOLLAPS

    whoever starts violence first is immoral

    Violence being inherently immoral is a schoolyard take bro. Economic violence occurs every day around us, yet you seem keen on defending those systems

  • Feb 22, 2022

    Toxic kings

    Gaslight these w****s

    Make em do emotional labor all day

  • Feb 22, 2022

    Totally unbiased take

  • Feb 22, 2022
    KOLLAPS

    whoever starts violence first is immoral

    Bruh no distespek but this is literally the moral philosophy of most kindergarteners

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    Not honest

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    It's not just the mere existence of NATO, it's the expansion to their borders and Russian support for Ukraine (including Ukrainian Nazis) in their proxy war against Russia that's provoking Russia.

    Russia isn't asking for NATO to be abolished lol

    but like why is nato expanding east bad? lol

    just because it makes russians feel less secure? so what?

  • Feb 22, 2022

    When you "invade" land that's been occupied since 2014 by people who support Russia

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    red eagle

    but like why is nato expanding east bad? lol

    just because it makes russians feel less secure? so what?

    Let's see what the USA would think if China put troops in Mexico or Canada

    Matter of fact there was this thing called Cuban Missile Crisis

  • Feb 22, 2022
    red eagle

    but like why is nato expanding east bad? lol

    just because it makes russians feel less secure? so what?

    The reason most leftists are opposed to this is because it will

    a. Lead to inevitable war as Russia destabilizes due to a shrinking power sphere and will attempt to defend its interests. LOTS of innocent people will die because rich people want to have power.

    b. Increases NATO hegemony which means their corporate masters can do what they want with all the resources and people in Eastern Europe

    The existence of a multipolar world pre-socialism is what most socialists prefer because a singular capitalist hegemony is a bad bad thing (British Empire)

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    red eagle

    but like why is nato expanding east bad? lol

    just because it makes russians feel less secure? so what?

    Same reason that it would be bad if the Warsaw pact still existed, and Mexico talked about "liberating" Texas, and the USSR pushed for Mexico to join the pact.

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    "Invading" is not honest in the slightest. It takes seconds of research to determine that land has been separated from Ukraine for years

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    ARCADE GOON

    Let's see what the USA would think if China put troops in Mexico or Canada

    Matter of fact there was this thing called Cuban Missile Crisis

    okay it's hypocritical, so what? it doesnt mean that it's bad.

    ok so russians feel less secure with nato on their border? ok so do the eastern european nations without nato, what about them? why does russian security matter more than theirs?

  • Feb 22, 2022
    Sloth

    "Invading" is not honest in the slightest. It takes seconds of research to determine that land has been separated from Ukraine for years

    If he was invading he would just invade. Putin doesn't need to do this

  • Feb 22, 2022

    Why are you shilling for a nazi govt

  • Feb 22, 2022

    I'm not a leftoid who throws around nazi btw

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    Scratchin Mamba

    Same reason that it would be bad if the Warsaw pact still existed, and Mexico talked about "liberating" Texas, and the USSR pushed for Mexico to join the pact.

    idgi?

    if mexico felt threatened, itd be good for the USSR to offer to join the pact

  • Feb 22, 2022
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    red eagle

    okay it's hypocritical, so what? it doesnt mean that it's bad.

    ok so russians feel less secure with nato on their border? ok so do the eastern european nations without nato, what about them? why does russian security matter more than theirs?

    The USA having its troops 6000 km across an ocean is normal but God forbid Russia wants cordial neighbors