dude why r u pretending that russia is not a world force the US should be concerned over?
i get that u hate america but since u keep asking me to be objective (which i think ive demonstrated that i really am trying to be) why cant u be objective and think of a single reason why an organization like NATO might exist?
even if u disagree with its goals, ur acting as if NATO was created to bully Russia for 0 reason, completely unprovoked
If it wasn’t created to directly oppose Russia/the USSR, how come they were the only applicant who was rejected back in the 1950’s
dude why r u pretending that russia is not a world force the US should be concerned over?
i get that u hate america but since u keep asking me to be objective (which i think ive demonstrated that i really am trying to be) why cant u be objective and think of a single reason why an organization like NATO might exist?
even if u disagree with its goals, ur acting as if NATO was created to bully Russia for 0 reason, completely unprovoked
It's not just the mere existence of NATO, it's the expansion to their borders and Russian support for Ukraine (including Ukrainian Nazis) in their proxy war against Russia that's provoking Russia.
Russia isn't asking for NATO to be abolished lol
whoever starts violence first is immoral
Violence being inherently immoral is a schoolyard take bro. Economic violence occurs every day around us, yet you seem keen on defending those systems
whoever starts violence first is immoral
Bruh no distespek but this is literally the moral philosophy of most kindergarteners
It's not just the mere existence of NATO, it's the expansion to their borders and Russian support for Ukraine (including Ukrainian Nazis) in their proxy war against Russia that's provoking Russia.
Russia isn't asking for NATO to be abolished lol
but like why is nato expanding east bad? lol
just because it makes russians feel less secure? so what?
but like why is nato expanding east bad? lol
just because it makes russians feel less secure? so what?
Let's see what the USA would think if China put troops in Mexico or Canada
Matter of fact there was this thing called Cuban Missile Crisis
but like why is nato expanding east bad? lol
just because it makes russians feel less secure? so what?
The reason most leftists are opposed to this is because it will
a. Lead to inevitable war as Russia destabilizes due to a shrinking power sphere and will attempt to defend its interests. LOTS of innocent people will die because rich people want to have power.
b. Increases NATO hegemony which means their corporate masters can do what they want with all the resources and people in Eastern Europe
The existence of a multipolar world pre-socialism is what most socialists prefer because a singular capitalist hegemony is a bad bad thing (British Empire)
but like why is nato expanding east bad? lol
just because it makes russians feel less secure? so what?
Same reason that it would be bad if the Warsaw pact still existed, and Mexico talked about "liberating" Texas, and the USSR pushed for Mexico to join the pact.
"Invading" is not honest in the slightest. It takes seconds of research to determine that land has been separated from Ukraine for years
Let's see what the USA would think if China put troops in Mexico or Canada
Matter of fact there was this thing called Cuban Missile Crisis
okay it's hypocritical, so what? it doesnt mean that it's bad.
ok so russians feel less secure with nato on their border? ok so do the eastern european nations without nato, what about them? why does russian security matter more than theirs?
"Invading" is not honest in the slightest. It takes seconds of research to determine that land has been separated from Ukraine for years
If he was invading he would just invade. Putin doesn't need to do this
Same reason that it would be bad if the Warsaw pact still existed, and Mexico talked about "liberating" Texas, and the USSR pushed for Mexico to join the pact.
idgi?
if mexico felt threatened, itd be good for the USSR to offer to join the pact
okay it's hypocritical, so what? it doesnt mean that it's bad.
ok so russians feel less secure with nato on their border? ok so do the eastern european nations without nato, what about them? why does russian security matter more than theirs?
The USA having its troops 6000 km across an ocean is normal but God forbid Russia wants cordial neighbors