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    BMZ
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ1wPdk35wE

    dresta hard af

  • OP
    Jun 23, 2020

    but back on topic. this might be one of the most underrated albums ever

  • OP
    Jun 23, 2020
    LUNÄ

    dresta hard af

    his verse on ole school s*** still hard

  • Jun 23, 2020
    Akame Ga Trill

    Definitely not rare but I never heard anyone mention RBL on ktt

    !https://youtu.be/mkMmOsgnb2I

    Ktt2 always smoking that bammer s*** 😒 they dont know

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    adding a lot of this to my playlist g

  • OP
    Jun 23, 2020
    ithaka

    adding a lot of this to my playlist g

    glad we can put each other on

  • Tubig 🌊
    Jun 23, 2020

    Gab the best rapper no one knows

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    BMZ
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQ1wPdk35wE

    If the cover looks like that and it came out between 1995-99, its gonna be a damn classic

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    Jun 23, 2020
    babylon sherm

    If the cover looks like that and it came out between 1995-99, its gonna be a damn classic

    !https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ab0QcPvG6g4

    looool this too true

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    Dust

  • OP
    Jun 23, 2020
    Misery

    Dust

    glorious dust

  • OP
    Jun 23, 2020

    people really act like ren's solo s*** never happened. he had a couple of songs

    second one is so dirty. wish we got three 6 mafia over it

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    ithaka

    god damn that bass is FAT

    check this one if u aint heard it before.

    posted the radio edit cas i prefer the energy in his vocals and the actual lyrics on this version

  • OP
    Jun 23, 2020

    BG Knocc Out was a cross between Eazy & Layzie Bone I swear lol

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    @op any rare gems in the breezy mood of today was a good day (production wise)?

  • Jun 23, 2020
    BMZ

    check this one if u aint heard it before.

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ayTjggN58o

    posted the radio edit cas i prefer the energy in his vocals and the actual lyrics on this version

    holy f*** this BIG WEEKEND VIBES right there aight

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    ithaka

    @op any rare gems in the breezy mood of today was a good day (production wise)?

    like soulful sample s***? let me see if i can find something

  • OP
    Jun 23, 2020

    hook is tacky but that bassline is mad

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    whole album is gold, really enjoy this cut.

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    BMZ

    like soulful sample s***? let me see if i can find something

    yeaaah that kind of kick, laid back, ion think it has to be a sample but just some smooth beat that brings that feel if that makes sense

    (also i said weekend vibe I meant the actual end of week not the singer lmao)

    and while im at it: would you consider yourself hip hop historian? one time i had a convo with a dude who opened my eyes on dr dre like how he has ghostproducers and ghostwriters but i never got around to finish it, so im looking to learn more about that, what has he actually done and accomplished himself, etc

  • Jun 23, 2020
    Vega
    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yfsiyf6Pk8E

    whole album is gold, really enjoy this cut.

    goddamn makes me feel like im in a casino in las veegas

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    ithaka

    yeaaah that kind of kick, laid back, ion think it has to be a sample but just some smooth beat that brings that feel if that makes sense

    (also i said weekend vibe I meant the actual end of week not the singer lmao)

    and while im at it: would you consider yourself hip hop historian? one time i had a convo with a dude who opened my eyes on dr dre like how he has ghostproducers and ghostwriters but i never got around to finish it, so im looking to learn more about that, what has he actually done and accomplished himself, etc

    I don't think I'd consider myself a historian lol but i for sure know a lot.

    Dre is basically the traditional idea of a producer. he may not play anything on record, might not come up with what exact notes to play but he'll get everyone around him to work on the project and have the final say if he likes it or not while structuring the song. Not saying this is what happens every time but this is what a lot of people allude to when they say Dre doesn't produce. Like Ain't No Fun is 100% a Daz beat but dre for sure helped structure the song and no one could mix a song like dre (until dj quik became the king of west coast production for a hot minute in 95 but thats another story).

    A lot of this talk about dre not producing comes from studio session players that feel like dre owes them or they didn't get paid correctly for what they did (eg playing the bassline that ended up being a major part of the song). think they made fun of this on Eazy-E's Radio & the We Want Eazy Extended Remix. Also I'm sure payment was a real issue the musicians and writters he was working with at the time had considered how f***ed Ruthless & Deathrow were with paying people.

    tldr: in the words of snoop dogg. Before Dre you might've had a great beat but with Dre you had an amazing beat and an amazing song.

    While we on the topic of dre and underrated westcoast songs heres a great diss song towards dre from one of his old writers.

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    I don't think I'd consider myself a historian lol but i for sure know a lot.

    Dre is basically the traditional idea of a producer. he may not play anything on record, might not come up with what exact notes to play but he'll get everyone around him to work on the project and have the final say if he likes it or not while structuring the song. Not saying this is what happens every time but this is what a lot of people allude to when they say Dre doesn't produce. Like Ain't No Fun is 100% a Daz beat but dre for sure helped structure the song and no one could mix a song like dre (until dj quik became the king of west coast production for a hot minute in 95 but thats another story).

    A lot of this talk about dre not producing comes from studio session players that feel like dre owes them or they didn't get paid correctly for what they did (eg playing the bassline that ended up being a major part of the song). think they made fun of this on Eazy-E's Radio & the We Want Eazy Extended Remix. Also I'm sure payment was a real issue the musicians and writters he was working with at the time had considered how f***ed Ruthless & Deathrow were with paying people.

    tldr: in the words of snoop dogg. Before Dre you might've had a great beat but with Dre you had an amazing beat and an amazing song.

    While we on the topic of dre and underrated westcoast songs heres a great diss song towards dre from one of his old writers.

    !https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vuAcCCyn28

    that’s a great read and it makes sense, thank you king

    see what gets my curiosity is when you say no one could mix like dre does is what intrigues me even more so since kanye empathizes this, so that’s where everyone agrees then so is this where actually dre shined and expertises, earned his respect regardless of the speculations and claims? what makes his mix stand out?

    but yeh i don’t disregard any approach of producing, i just like to break it down, it helps me to get to know and understand who dre is and where his input or creativity really hits or comes together, especially when that whole era is so mystified n glorified you know?

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    ithaka

    that’s a great read and it makes sense, thank you king

    see what gets my curiosity is when you say no one could mix like dre does is what intrigues me even more so since kanye empathizes this, so that’s where everyone agrees then so is this where actually dre shined and expertises, earned his respect regardless of the speculations and claims? what makes his mix stand out?

    but yeh i don’t disregard any approach of producing, i just like to break it down, it helps me to get to know and understand who dre is and where his input or creativity really hits or comes together, especially when that whole era is so mystified n glorified you know?

    the overall sound quality was just always there when a lot of hip hop just wasn't. I think the fact you can still play a song like Dopeman or even the OG Boyz N Tha Hood and the drums still knock just shows you Dre's ear was that good that early on. On top of that the quality of the actual songs were top tier. Compare the drums from this to other songs from around the same era

    Also Dre basically mastered the art of mixing on 2001. s*** is perfect.