this aint 90s (released in 2000) but worth posting since we talking about dre. Quik felt like dre was dissing him on whats the difference. caught feelings and dropped this majorly disrespectful diss. They met up and dre was like why the f*** would i be talking about you lmbo. Quik went that hard at dre for no reason at all

BRUH i s*** you not i was posting boyz n the hood earlier in a chat thread and was saying how does this still slaps so hard? hell if you remix and modify just one or two dated sounds (not saying this in a negative way) it’s a banger in 2020 lol

but yeh i was reading about it and saw dj yella credited too so that’s what brought me back to this convo, thinking dj yella had maybe more to do with it as in he maybe deserves more credit?

but the context you bring is spot on, hip hop wasn’t established as it is now and the songs we take for granted like nuthin but a g thung are standouts and rightfully so, when boyz n the hood came out it was prolly like how when nirvana came out with this raw sound killing off the whole stadium glossy s*** for a good minute

ima have to go back to 2001, so maybe that’s why he was so pressured for detox, not just popularity wise and the impact 2001 had but because of the crafting work on the mix on it huh

oh for sure Yella deserves credit. He brought a lot of great ideas especially on that second NWA album. From what I've heard the production on that album was basically just yella and dre throwing around samples everywhere. Probably the most sampled based project Dre has ever done. Also worth noting a lot of heavy sampled based records ended up with s***ty mixes and sound dated because of it while the second NWA album still sounds so good. vocal samples, drum loops, extra percussion loops and a heavy guitar sample through out that all sound clear and get a chance to shine through. No hip-hop record from this time sounded this clear

Also worth noting that second NWA album would probably be a top 5 hip hop album if Cube was still part of the group. shame it got ruined by boring ren verses and trying too hard to be edgy sex/rape songs.

You can listen to yella's solo production after and you can see what he brought to the table. Like this song here for example.

good sample flip. good bassline and the drums work but it doesn't hit nearly as much as the production on the NWA albums. like i said before its a good beat but if dre had his hands on it you can only think how he would have developed this idea and how big he could have made it. Now compare it to a post-nwa dre beat.

those drums, the vocals, that sample. still feel fresh. also dre would PRODUCE them. he was telling them to re-write lyrics or change there delivery.

dam g, yeah that makes it all more clear now ima listen time every song itt btw

also agree on cube, thats why i was referring to today was a good day earlier, im kinda obsessed how a masterpiece that song is on every layers

it’s funny because i hate to be the dude who’s like yo let’s talk about nwa and dre and that whole legend as soon as someone talks about west coast, because it downplays the other contributions, but then again ain’t that proving their legacy and the hard work they did for it to still be the center of the topic

so the delivery thing true too, how he told eazy e how to spit on boyz n the hood like we see in the nwa movie

because im always careful about official biopics especially when the dudes themselves are involved in producing it or writing it etc, can be ego boost stuff

all good fam im always down to talk music and yeah the story of recording boyz n the hood is true but that whole movie is such a ego stroke for dre. they did eazy dirty through the entire thing. also dre acting like he was completely innocent in the deathrow days is bullshit. also straight up ignoring the dee barners situation? smh

the documentary he did with jimmy seemed to be a more accurate story

yeh i figured some s*** were fishy and that’s why i ask about dre, and yeh the dee barnes thing is f***ed up, i think there was a story with also another girl he was dating? i think i know which doco you’re talking about ive seen some clips

oh yeah he used to beat michelle up too. s***s sad. I've heard dre has worked on himself a lot since those days. it kinda just shows a lack of growth that u want to put yourself in this hero role in this movie but ignore the bad you did. whatever tho its a movie. he addresses it in the doc.

now we talking. might be the best album with the worst cover ever you know

@op

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one last thing on that topic @op i relistened to nuthin but g thang yesterday and the dre line when he says what producer you know can rap like this got me thinking: was he the first in the game to produce and rap?

was just watching this clip too, the video and audio quality on the song is insane in it wtf it looks like the video was shot yesterday bro

Facts

Not a west coast artist but a west coast song

F*** dude, I'm pretty sure I know what album you're talking about but I can't remember the name. It's gonna bother me until I do.

I've heard stories of beastie boys programming some drum tracks here and there and LL having song ideas thought out and rick would just program for him but as far as artists that pride themselves as both producer and rapper EPMD beats Dre by a year

im probably forgetting some notable names

they really had ther 2pac soundalike dissing dre and em thought that was actually twista on this song for a minute too. just a soundalike with the same name

One of the best threads, took me way back.

Based thread

Kokane lowkey was ahead of his time. album is a love letter to those classic funk records produced with some of the dirtiest 90s synths on earth. also his style is still unique to this day. feel like the only way you can describe him is like Max B meets chance the rapper but with westcoast gangsta rap content.

real for runnin game

surprised we got this far without a bloods and crips track. C Note shoulda got a solo deal