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  • Water Giver

    Why cant niggas just be a regular conservative they always gotta be like an evangelical far right or a straight tin foil q-anon 💀💀

    conspiracy theories are sort of the cornerstone of "conservatism"

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    'cept we know cracker doesn't "produce" the way we use the term today. he literally admits to not knowing how to. producing credits can and always have meant pretty much anything, even what these beatmakers do is really musical composition and sound design and pretty much everything else outside of the artist rapping. metro didn't really just "produce" percocet and stripper joint, nigga literally made that s***. every musical element you hear in the song, even arguably future's autotune working at all is metro, unless there are other niggas credited. he's composing. he's a music composer, an artist. producer is just the term we use for folks who make anything other than the "main draw" like the artist rapping, when in reality there would be no future music without the "producer". all these future songs really should have whoever actually made the music having top billing right next to bro, not just a name hidden in credits, but that's a convo for another time

    jason ladder is credited as a recording engineer and for guitar, bass and keyboards, so the answer of who really made the song along with the other credited writers becomes clear. daheala is a credited "writer" and he is a crack industry producer, so he prolly made the drums and all other elements ladder didn't make. rubin sat around and said "vibes, man" the song obviously didn't need him, and now he gets a royalty check for it.

    all in all the producer as a role is a meaningless term more than ever and that's why rick has been able to get by this long w literally no musical talent or skill

    yeah that’s the classic meaning of a producer they arrange musicians

    quincy jones didn’t write any of mjs music lol

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    'cept we know cracker doesn't "produce" the way we use the term today. he literally admits to not knowing how to. producing credits can and always have meant pretty much anything, even what these beatmakers do is really musical composition and sound design and pretty much everything else outside of the artist rapping. metro didn't really just "produce" percocet and stripper joint, nigga literally made that s***. every musical element you hear in the song, even arguably future's autotune working at all is metro, unless there are other niggas credited. he's composing. he's a music composer, an artist. producer is just the term we use for folks who make anything other than the "main draw" like the artist rapping, when in reality there would be no future music without the "producer". all these future songs really should have whoever actually made the music having top billing right next to bro, not just a name hidden in credits, but that's a convo for another time

    jason ladder is credited as a recording engineer and for guitar, bass and keyboards, so the answer of who really made the song along with the other credited writers becomes clear. daheala is a credited "writer" and he is a crack industry producer, so he prolly made the drums and all other elements ladder didn't make. rubin sat around and said "vibes, man" the song obviously didn't need him, and now he gets a royalty check for it.

    all in all the producer as a role is a meaningless term more than ever and that's why rick has been able to get by this long w literally no musical talent or skill

    So Rick Rubin is a producer, thanks

  • atthepyramids
    https://twitter.com/bootsriley/status/1766204671775969475

    He just looks like a hippie

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    yeah that’s the classic meaning of a producer they arrange musicians

    quincy jones didn’t write any of mjs music lol

    no... that's literally called an arranger. if you had any idea about how music is made and how musicians are credited you'd know that. second sentence is also completely irrelevant so wtf are you even yappin about, MJ music has plenty of credited songwriters other than MJ himself, such as rod templeton on off the wall title track, or entire songs niggas just gave to him, like mf I can't help it written by Stevie, floetry flr butterflies or mf r kelly for you are not alone. expected someone with Sophie in their avi to care more/be more knowledgeable about music but go off ig

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    why do people that are this ignorant about music even post on a music forum i really don't get it. yall belong on twitter or sumn. niggas really just post whatever and make themselves look actually braindead when we all got access to the same publicly available info. imagine remotely defending rick rubin in good year of our lord 2024 to begin w

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    Google record producer career and report back

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    Google record producer career and report back

    again, all of this was already addressed. you just dunked on yourself bruh

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    again, all of this was already addressed. you just dunked on yourself bruh

    A record producer is a music recording project's overall supervisor whose responsibilities can involve a range of creative and technical leadership roles. Typically the job involves hands-on oversight of recording sessions: ensuring artists deliver acceptable and quality performances, supervising the technical engineering of the recording, and coordinating the production team and process. The producer's involvement in a musical project can vary in depth and scope.

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    TTU

    So Rick Rubin is a producer, thanks

    im ngl if there’s people that have worked with him that say he hasn’t done s*** im gonna kinda take their word over some dude on a Kanye forum

    these super producers are fraudulent a lot of the time, didn’t Timbaland get caught taking loops from niggas and selling it off as if he was the only one involved?

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    im ngl if there’s people that have worked with him that say he hasn’t done s*** im gonna kinda take their word over some dude on a Kanye forum

    these super producers are fraudulent a lot of the time, didn’t Timbaland get caught taking loops from niggas and selling it off as if he was the only one involved?

    No I get that but a music producer isn’t a musician dude lol

    It’s the industry word for creative director. It’s completely made up. It’s business lingo

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    “A music producer supports musicians and recording artists in a variety of ways in the recording and realisation of their music. The nature and application of this support will be different for every project and this results in some exciting challenges. A music producer can come from a musical background, as a musician, or from a technical background, as a recording engineer, or both. The role is principally a creative one but they must be able to balance the administration requirements with the creative ones to enable an appropriate environment for the artists to perform.”

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    No I get that but a music producer isn’t a musician dude lol

    It’s the industry word for creative director. It’s completely made up. It’s business lingo

    oh, so if you get that why tf are you caping for this dude and quibbling over terms like an argumentative ass nigga?

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    oh, so if you get that why tf are you caping for this dude and quibbling over terms like an argumentative ass nigga?

    Because he is a producer. He’s just a bad one

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    TTU

    Because he is a producer. He’s just a bad one

    aight whatever but you're still not understanding the reality that that the term producer is completely meaningless now and has come to me a lot of things, and in reality most people when they consider the term they think of people like Metro Boomin and not mf George Clinton or Rudy Van Gelder or some s*** and you keep trying to pretend that that reality isn't a thing and that's just dumb as hell.

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    voriox

    aight whatever but you're still not understanding the reality that that the term producer is completely meaningless now and has come to me a lot of things, and in reality most people when they consider the term they think of people like Metro Boomin and not mf George Clinton or Rudy Van Gelder or some s*** and you keep trying to pretend that that reality isn't a thing and that's just dumb as hell.

    If that’s why you were coming at me I completely side with you. Rubin is legitimately s*** at all he does. Completely a hack

    But the producer talk kinda remind me of the racist white dudes who claim P isn’t a designer because he can’t cut cloth. I never liked that thinking. These words are business centric. Producers manage. Music, record. It’s all the same. In this age anyway, and in my opinion. All interchangeable

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    voriox

    aight whatever but you're still not understanding the reality that that the term producer is completely meaningless now and has come to me a lot of things, and in reality most people when they consider the term they think of people like Metro Boomin and not mf George Clinton or Rudy Van Gelder or some s*** and you keep trying to pretend that that reality isn't a thing and that's just dumb as hell.

    Yes I agree with your edit wholly

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    TTU

    Yes I agree with your edit wholly

    alright my bad for coming so hard im just used to mfs saying the most re.tarded s*** to me so i can get a lil sassy

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    alright my bad for coming so hard im just used to mfs saying the most re.tarded s*** to me so i can get a lil sassy

    No you’re completely fine. It’s a waste not to be passionate about anything

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    fiveprestos

    This been known

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    Am I the only person who finds this f***ing hilarious? Kanye was on his usual grind and Rick rubin tells him to meet with Candace owens tells him it's gonna be lit etc. Just for it to spiral like this lost his family his adidas deal etc etc

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    Lein

    no it aint been known!! is there a twitter thread or compilation or something ppl collectively caught up on because google gives me nothing