Huh, he clearly gets influenced very easy. Like when he made JIK had a priest with him all day that helped convince him to re record his music without curse words. Or how his far right ideologies literally almost word for word line up with Candace Owen's. I seen her on Joe Rogan years before she got cool with Kanye and she was expressing the same opinions on there as Kanye would years later. The planned parenthood killing black babies purposely etc.

Kanye needs to come on Rick’s podcast and go off on him

I've seen ppl bring it up whenever his names is mentioned whether here or on twitter for a couple years now. But here's an article from 2017, so ppl been known bout it for at least since then stereogum.com/1976682/rick-rubin-is-still-retweeting-alt-right-nut-jobs/news

no QJ is still credited as the producer of the songs not "the arranger" hahahaha

an arranger is someone who sequences songs, you have no idea what you're talking about

you don't have to literally make the beat to be one of the producers

songs have a lot of producers and song writers credited a lot of times, other times people aren't even credited (a-trak did dj skipping work on early kanye albums and was never credited)

you have no idea who i am, i could be a musican with years of song writing experience and collabing with people

you are are so ignorant and over the top

why are you implying a bunch of s*** i never said also, please don't reply

cause I'm done with this mind numbing convo

like people being unable to separate the art from the artists

i don't get it

you don't have to make up fiction about the history of producers to try and make a fake point hahahhaha

Arrangers help finish, rework, and adapt preexisting compositions by altering elements such as instrumentation, orchestration, harmony, tempo, and genre.

britannica.com/dictionary/arranger

i am gonna reply actually, because it’s laughable how arrogant you are in your easily verifiably wrong and pathetic assertions.

are you serious right now? deadass i don’t think ive ever seen anyone more confidently wrong about anything in my entire life. you literally just pulled the most asinine, simpleton definition out of your ass for no reason other than you so badly can’t stand being wrong i guess. this mf actually thinks there’s a job in music that has no purpose other than to SEQUENCE SONGS, something artists are primarily responsible for by basically all accounts. actual braindead level s***. no one has EVER defined arranger that way, it’s an extremely old term in music and has been used the way i described and literally came up with as a cursory google search. if you had looked beyond Wikipedia, a notoriously underwritten source for writing credits for music, you would’ve known QJ is credited for arrangements along with many other musicians for thriller.

a-trak should’ve been credited, you’re using that as an example even though that’s wrong and so are you. and again, you’ve massively missed the whole point of this, which is that mfs that contribute nothing of artistic value to the musical composition itself shouldn’t really be getting any credit at all, which sure you could argue rick does, but that’s entirely a matter of opinion, and mine and others’ is that rick is an utter hack who has no reason to he messing w anyone’s records let alone the artists’ he works w and everything you enjoy about music w his prod credits on it is really the work of others

trust me dude, i can tell a lot about you from your word vomit, the fact that you are most definitely not a trained musician most of all and have no place speaking on this when you can’t even bring yourself to accept the most baseline definition for a standard industry term. literally just projecting with this, i don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone more ignorant on this forum and that’s saying a lot. calling me ignorant on this subject of all mf subjects is laughable considering my own experience and education but i won’t even bother getting into that because i don’t need to, none of this s*** requires a music degree to understand yet you epically failed to do so anyway. have you ever considered it to be mind numbing because you are somehow too stupid to understand this basic s***?

if you really are that bothered by this convo, feel free to block me. i doubt ill be missing out on anything of value. feel free to reply to me again and make a bigger joke out of yourself.

Kanye is one of the most impressionable humans i've ever seen. You can even most recently look at how he's now not releasing Vultures 2 on streaming because of a James Blake quote he saw within the last 48 hours. Like wtf.

i have yet to say anything of substance bout rick’s alleged political views, slowpoke. and your mind was obviously too numb from all this according to you to understand that nothing i posted was fiction and that the very definition of the term producer is and has been malleable for as long as it’s been around throughout its entire history, and is borderline denotationally meaningless now as it basically just means whatever the user means by it atp. nothing fictional about that, it’s like arguing that water isnt wet, which is what you’re somehow trying to do.

also you not seemingly not seeing how conservative political views pretty much invariably affect one’s taste and artistic output mostly for the negative is wild and reflects a lot on you but that’s neither here nor there for this convo. you remind me of ye stans trying to say the messy s*** about recent ye has nothing to do w his art when… it’s literally in it, so the argument is disingenuous as f*** to begin w. not caring is another thing, and if the end of the day if i like something i don’t necessarily care if it came from a conservative, again not the issue here, because regardless of any of his political views, rick is verifiably a hack, which is how ive been comin this whole time

damn the lore expanding

and yours

We're done with the 90s

He tried to get the band black crowes to change their name to kobb kounty krowes so he been lame

????

oh yeah, look that s*** up. absolutely wild.