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Yeh real history is far more complicated but from my understanding it something like this.

After WW2 and after millenniums of attack and suffering, there was a wave called Zionism, which ment that the Jews had to have their own country, because if not they are never going to be safe.

So after the Holocaust, the Zionism movement really grew very strong. They had their eyes on Israel because there was historical evidence that Jews was there back in like 400BC or smth. The world felt bad for the Jews. The UK rushed the processed of giving the Jews Israel, and just said that there was part of Israel was Palestine.

Now the issue, there was a thing called the 6 day war. Where ALL the surrounding neighbor of Israel started to attack them, Egypt Jordan Iraq Syria Lebanon. But surprisingly Israel won, and since they won they expanded, taking apart of Egypt all of Palestine and other parts. Eventually they gave back some land to achieve peace. But they didn't give back the Palestine part, and eventually isreal started to settle in those Palestine area.

The UN was slow to react and by the time they reacted, there was Jews that already settled in Palestine area. So it makes the legality of it murky. Since there is a lot of countries that go to war and expand.

Now jumping into the present. The Palestine is controlled by a group called the Hamas. They are not willing to have peace. They don't recognize isreal, and was to kill all Jews. Litreally impossible to achieve peace.

Now this is scratching the surface of the issue. My only problem is people who don't know the history comments with their prejudice. Saying things like isreal is creating a Palestine genocide. Like ?? . This is war, and no where near a genocide. People think they are based and condemned isreal, just because in this situation isreal is more powerful than Palestine. Like imagine if you had to live with someone that wants to kill you, but you were more powerful than them. In reality both countries are at fault. There is no one side that is right. Siding with either side and completely dismissing the other side is exactly the problem, that would cause the other side to strengthen more their beliefs.

Edit: British supported Jews for isreal not since WW2 but since ww1

DUMMIE

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She right religious wars gotta end how is that a hot take

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Yeh real history is far more complicated but from my understanding it something like this.

After WW2 and after millenniums of attack and suffering, there was a wave called Zionism, which ment that the Jews had to have their own country, because if not they are never going to be safe.

So after the Holocaust, the Zionism movement really grew very strong. They had their eyes on Israel because there was historical evidence that Jews was there back in like 400BC or smth. The world felt bad for the Jews. The UK rushed the processed of giving the Jews Israel, and just said that there was part of Israel was Palestine.

Now the issue, there was a thing called the 6 day war. Where ALL the surrounding neighbor of Israel started to attack them, Egypt Jordan Iraq Syria Lebanon. But surprisingly Israel won, and since they won they expanded, taking apart of Egypt all of Palestine and other parts. Eventually they gave back some land to achieve peace. But they didn't give back the Palestine part, and eventually isreal started to settle in those Palestine area.

The UN was slow to react and by the time they reacted, there was Jews that already settled in Palestine area. So it makes the legality of it murky. Since there is a lot of countries that go to war and expand.

Now jumping into the present. The Palestine is controlled by a group called the Hamas. They are not willing to have peace. They don't recognize isreal, and was to kill all Jews. Litreally impossible to achieve peace.

Now this is scratching the surface of the issue. My only problem is people who don't know the history comments with their prejudice. Saying things like isreal is creating a Palestine genocide. Like ?? . This is war, and no where near a genocide. People think they are based and condemned isreal, just because in this situation isreal is more powerful than Palestine. Like imagine if you had to live with someone that wants to kill you, but you were more powerful than them. In reality both countries are at fault. There is no one side that is right. Siding with either side and completely dismissing the other side is exactly the problem, that would cause the other side to strengthen more their beliefs.

Edit: British supported Jews for isreal not since WW2 but since ww1

666

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ban every zionist itt

Dream

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Half the Jews in Israel (Mizrahi, Sephardi Jews) came from Arab lands where they'd lived peacefully for hundreds of years before being thrown out recently. There's a million Moroccan Jews in Israel alone.

Most of these Jews tend to be far more conservative and right-leaning, they're the ones who vote Netanyahu.

The white (Ashkenazi) Jews from Europe tend to be far more pro-peace and left-wing.

Synopsis

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not to mention the complete ahistorical nonsense on the 6 day war lmfao

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Yeh real history is far more complicated but from my understanding it something like this.

After WW2 and after millenniums of attack and suffering, there was a wave called Zionism, which ment that the Jews had to have their own country, because if not they are never going to be safe.

So after the Holocaust, the Zionism movement really grew very strong. They had their eyes on Israel because there was historical evidence that Jews was there back in like 400BC or smth. The world felt bad for the Jews. The UK rushed the processed of giving the Jews Israel, and just said that there was part of Israel was Palestine.

Now the issue, there was a thing called the 6 day war. Where ALL the surrounding neighbor of Israel started to attack them, Egypt Jordan Iraq Syria Lebanon. But surprisingly Israel won, and since they won they expanded, taking apart of Egypt all of Palestine and other parts. Eventually they gave back some land to achieve peace. But they didn't give back the Palestine part, and eventually isreal started to settle in those Palestine area.

The UN was slow to react and by the time they reacted, there was Jews that already settled in Palestine area. So it makes the legality of it murky. Since there is a lot of countries that go to war and expand.

Now jumping into the present. The Palestine is controlled by a group called the Hamas. They are not willing to have peace. They don't recognize isreal, and was to kill all Jews. Litreally impossible to achieve peace.

Now this is scratching the surface of the issue. My only problem is people who don't know the history comments with their prejudice. Saying things like isreal is creating a Palestine genocide. Like ?? . This is war, and no where near a genocide. People think they are based and condemned isreal, just because in this situation isreal is more powerful than Palestine. Like imagine if you had to live with someone that wants to kill you, but you were more powerful than them. In reality both countries are at fault. There is no one side that is right. Siding with either side and completely dismissing the other side is exactly the problem, that would cause the other side to strengthen more their beliefs.

Edit: British supported Jews for isreal not since WW2 but since ww1

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