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  • Dec 27, 2024
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    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    True and didn’t you have an article that said True Romance original script was huge and he was able to make like 3 movies from it? I’m sure that happens often where a filmmaker has an idea that can go separate ways but instead of cramming it all into one they’re able to create multiple so they can spend more time on the differing themes

    That’s just how QT writes tho lol.

    Inglorious Basterds same thing, he wrote a million pages and originally Shoshanna goes on a rampant revenge killing spree riding motorcycles smoking cigarettes. He ended up making her character more subtle and nuanced and turning that revenge movie into Kill Bill instead. And then he had the Killers Crow movie he was suppose to do that he wrote in the IB original draft. So that was 3 movie at least he wrote inside the original draft

  • Dec 27, 2024
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    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    Knowing what to cut and how to streamline your project is gonna be your superpower

    Word I hope so knowijg what to cut is such a valuable tool to have

  • Dec 27, 2024
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    Oscar Winner

    Word I hope so knowijg what to cut is such a valuable tool to have

    Yup, and when you're starting off you really can't afford to stall or waste time. Lean and mean. I always find something to cut or revise into something more compact when I rewrite my drafts

  • Dec 27, 2024
    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    Yup, and when you're starting off you really can't afford to stall or waste time. Lean and mean. I always find something to cut or revise into something more compact when I rewrite my drafts

    Facts! I try and write my first drafts (vomit drafts) as fast as possible to get it all out. And then try and chip away and mold it into something decent

  • Dec 27, 2024

    Back on the movie though, Cinderella being Anora’s favorite princess I think is very telling of what her mindset is like. She convinced herself that this was about to be her Cinderella story and that might be delusional mindset for some but there are people out there who are delusional like this male and female.

    Sean Baker’s characters in general are most of the time uneducated from the mom in Florida Project to Simon Rex in Red Rocket and Anora here. I’m sure we all know someone who comes from no money that doesn’t have the life experience of viewing the world outside of their limited knowledge. Most of my friends from high school didn’t go to college or ever leave their hometown so I tend to emphasize with people like that

  • Dec 27, 2024
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    Oscar Winner

    That’s just how QT writes tho lol.

    Inglorious Basterds same thing, he wrote a million pages and originally Shoshanna goes on a rampant revenge killing spree riding motorcycles smoking cigarettes. He ended up making her character more subtle and nuanced and turning that revenge movie into Kill Bill instead. And then he had the Killers Crow movie he was suppose to do that he wrote in the IB original draft. So that was 3 movie at least he wrote inside the original draft

    That’s crazy but it works. Allows for him to expand on things that he would have to gloss over if he crammed it into one

  • Dec 27, 2024
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    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    That’s crazy but it works. Allows for him to expand on things that he would have to gloss over if he crammed it into one

    Yup facts. He said it’s cus he writes his s*** like novels where he just wants to explore any and every possibility.

    It’s kinda like how Kanye would make a million different beats and have other producers make their own version of the beat to the same 1 song just to hear all possible options and decide what’s best

  • Dec 27, 2024
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    Oscar Winner

    Yup facts. He said it’s cus he writes his s*** like novels where he just wants to explore any and every possibility.

    It’s kinda like how Kanye would make a million different beats and have other producers make their own version of the beat to the same 1 song just to hear all possible options and decide what’s best

    I read the novelization of once upon a time in Hollywood and Cliff Booth is way nicer in the film. Dude's an a****** in the book lmao, oh and the sequence of events is all shuffled up

  • Dec 27, 2024
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    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    I read the novelization of once upon a time in Hollywood and Cliff Booth is way nicer in the film. Dude's an a****** in the book lmao, oh and the sequence of events is all shuffled up

    Lmao yeah he is hahaha….do you think Brads charm also adds to it tho?

  • Oscar Winner

    Lmao yeah he is hahaha….do you think Brads charm also adds to it tho?

    Oh for sure. I'm straight as a fiddle and even I get it

  • Dec 27, 2024

    I been tryna give this a watch for eons at this point lol

  • Dec 28, 2024
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    @twitch have you seen this? Sean really let them improv if this is anything to go by

  • Dec 28, 2024
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    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    @twitch have you seen this? Sean really let them improv if this is anything to go by

    https://twitter.com/neonrated/status/1872674310042923042

    Nah I haven’t, I still needa read the script. But yeah Sean does a lot of improv in his films. I think one of his earlier screenplays was only like 40-50 pages long?

  • Dec 28, 2024
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    Oscar Winner

    Nah I haven’t, I still needa read the script. But yeah Sean does a lot of improv in his films. I think one of his earlier screenplays was only like 40-50 pages long?

    That’s wild to get a 40-50 page script greenlit but it helps to have connections

  • Dec 28, 2024
    Mac Wit Da Cheese

    That’s wild to get a 40-50 page script greenlit but it helps to have connections

    That’s the beauty of f***in wit indie production companies, they respect your vision and just let you rock

  • Dec 29, 2024

    This s*** was pretty good

  • Dec 29, 2024

    Just watched this

    Yea imma need a trilogy NOW

  • Dec 31, 2024
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    If the message is respecting s***work, I’m still wondering why Ani gets offended about being called a prostitute and claims “IM NOT A PROSTITUTE”

    Shouldn’t she be proud? Or at least act like it’s not an offensive term?

  • Dec 31, 2024
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    Oscar Winner

    If the message is respecting s***work, I’m still wondering why Ani gets offended about being called a prostitute and claims “IM NOT A PROSTITUTE”

    Shouldn’t she be proud? Or at least act like it’s not an offensive term?

    I dont think the film is about any of that. Imo its about a young woman who desires love and doesnt really know how to go about it due to her age, upbringing, her economical and environmental factors. I read the film as a deconstructed cinderella story.

    She is technically a highly respected stripper in an affluent part of new york in her early 20s who dabbles in transactional s***with customers she likes (in the film, the son of a billionaire) Shes not a no name streetwalker selling herself out in the cold 24/7 for low pay under a pimp. which is probably why she takes offense at being called a prostitute especially after falling in love with ivan. She probably feels like she is above that type of s***work, as she rocks a huge diamond on her finger. Kinda like how an immature computer programmer could look down on a fry cook. Forgetting that before programming, he once worked as a waiter somewhere. Thats a flaw in her line of thinking, yet relatable and understandable for someone about 4 years out of high school.

    She took huge offense to being called an escort by ivan cause she genuinely thought they were in love. Whole film is pretty much that. Its implied that she has an absent father and negligent mother so for the whole b plot of the movie, we come to find out she doesnt even know how to process genuine care for her being. Which is why she always s***ted on igor with crazy accusations up until her catharsis with him.

    I digress, but theres nuance to s***work. Imo its neither respectable nor abhorrent, its just what some disenfranchised ppl do to pay the bills if the option is presented to them as something they could be good at, and said people are just as deserving of love and respect as anyone else. i think the movie explains that well.

  • Dec 31, 2024
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    Worldpremiere_

    I dont think the film is about any of that. Imo its about a young woman who desires love and doesnt really know how to go about it due to her age, upbringing, her economical and environmental factors. I read the film as a deconstructed cinderella story.

    She is technically a highly respected stripper in an affluent part of new york in her early 20s who dabbles in transactional s***with customers she likes (in the film, the son of a billionaire) Shes not a no name streetwalker selling herself out in the cold 24/7 for low pay under a pimp. which is probably why she takes offense at being called a prostitute especially after falling in love with ivan. She probably feels like she is above that type of s***work, as she rocks a huge diamond on her finger. Kinda like how an immature computer programmer could look down on a fry cook. Forgetting that before programming, he once worked as a waiter somewhere. Thats a flaw in her line of thinking, yet relatable and understandable for someone about 4 years out of high school.

    She took huge offense to being called an escort by ivan cause she genuinely thought they were in love. Whole film is pretty much that. Its implied that she has an absent father and negligent mother so for the whole b plot of the movie, we come to find out she doesnt even know how to process genuine care for her being. Which is why she always s***ted on igor with crazy accusations up until her catharsis with him.

    I digress, but theres nuance to s***work. Imo its neither respectable nor abhorrent, its just what some disenfranchised ppl do to pay the bills if the option is presented to them as something they could be good at, and said people are just as deserving of love and respect as anyone else. i think the movie explains that well.

    She took huge offense to being called an escort by ivan cause she genuinely thought they were in love.

    She seems like an experienced stripper/escort who knows that the pretenses are all just part of the game and allure, not actually the real deal because that's the majority of her clientele. Which is more confusing when this film is partly marketed as a romance because wtf does she see in Ivan
    The only thing he's demonstrated is that he's an easy lick. Not charm, not chemistry, not moments of actual bonding beyond physical intimacy.

    Which is why she always s***ted on igor with crazy accusations up until her catharsis with him.

    She was in the right

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    F*** Igor

    Not all Men: The Movie

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    Worldpremiere_

    I dont think the film is about any of that. Imo its about a young woman who desires love and doesnt really know how to go about it due to her age, upbringing, her economical and environmental factors. I read the film as a deconstructed cinderella story.

    She is technically a highly respected stripper in an affluent part of new york in her early 20s who dabbles in transactional s***with customers she likes (in the film, the son of a billionaire) Shes not a no name streetwalker selling herself out in the cold 24/7 for low pay under a pimp. which is probably why she takes offense at being called a prostitute especially after falling in love with ivan. She probably feels like she is above that type of s***work, as she rocks a huge diamond on her finger. Kinda like how an immature computer programmer could look down on a fry cook. Forgetting that before programming, he once worked as a waiter somewhere. Thats a flaw in her line of thinking, yet relatable and understandable for someone about 4 years out of high school.

    She took huge offense to being called an escort by ivan cause she genuinely thought they were in love. Whole film is pretty much that. Its implied that she has an absent father and negligent mother so for the whole b plot of the movie, we come to find out she doesnt even know how to process genuine care for her being. Which is why she always s***ted on igor with crazy accusations up until her catharsis with him.

    I digress, but theres nuance to s***work. Imo its neither respectable nor abhorrent, its just what some disenfranchised ppl do to pay the bills if the option is presented to them as something they could be good at, and said people are just as deserving of love and respect as anyone else. i think the movie explains that well.

    Sean himself said he’s trying to nail the message of “respecting s***work” and that’s why he tackles the subject so much

    “Prostitution is a type of s***work that involves engaging in sexual activity in exchange for payment.”

    Idc how y’all spin it, she’s literally a prostitute. She was having s***for money the entire first half until they got married. Prostitute doesn’t just mean “walking the corner for a pimp”

    If you make money by rapping, your occupation is a rapper. It’s really that simple. She made money by stripping and by being a prostitute.

  • Dec 31, 2024
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    CRACKASTEPPAVEGAN

    She took huge offense to being called an escort by ivan cause she genuinely thought they were in love.

    She seems like an experienced stripper/escort who knows that the pretenses are all just part of the game and allure, not actually the real deal because that's the majority of her clientele. Which is more confusing when this film is partly marketed as a romance because wtf does she see in Ivan
    The only thing he's demonstrated is that he's an easy lick. Not charm, not chemistry, not moments of actual bonding beyond physical intimacy.

    Which is why she always s***ted on igor with crazy accusations up until her catharsis with him.

    She was in the right

    Shes experienced, but shes also still about 23 in the film iirc. So technically not that experienced at all really. Not in s***work and especially in life. She got nothing more than 4 years of stripping in a affluent protected business. Thats nothing in the grand scheme of things. she was picked by the owner to personally attend to ivan. That involves a level of trust and kinship, its not like she was thrown in the deep end the gritty life of s***work. Im other words: shes pretty naive relatively speaking.

    In any case, its remarkably easy for a lovelorn materialistic 20 something to fall for somebody like ivan despite the red flags,when they dont really know what love with a man actually looks like outside of transactions.

    One of my main critiques of the film was that i wish it couldve been longer than it already was, or split into 2 parts. a film with her type of character needs time to fully develop or else theres alot left to intepret. Thats just my 2 cents and how i see the movie tho

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    Sean himself said he’s trying to nail the message of “respecting s***work” and that’s why he tackles the subject so much

    “Prostitution is a type of s***work that involves engaging in sexual activity in exchange for payment.”

    Idc how y’all spin it, she’s literally a prostitute. She was having s***for money the entire first half until they got married. Prostitute doesn’t just mean “walking the corner for a pimp”

    If you make money by rapping, your occupation is a rapper. It’s really that simple. She made money by stripping and by being a prostitute.

    I mean, yeah shes a s***worker. Whats your point lol

    I feel like sean is kinda skewing his own intent there. His movies seems to respect the person doing the s***work, not S***Work. Seems to me like hes very neutral about the occupation itself. never really seems to glorify or condemn it as a job. But who knows. Again, just my take on it.

  • Worldpremiere_

    Shes experienced, but shes also still about 23 in the film iirc. So technically not that experienced at all really. Not in s***work and especially in life. She got nothing more than 4 years of stripping in a affluent protected business. Thats nothing in the grand scheme of things. she was picked by the owner to personally attend to ivan. That involves a level of trust and kinship, its not like she was thrown in the deep end the gritty life of s***work. Im other words: shes pretty naive relatively speaking.

    In any case, its remarkably easy for a lovelorn materialistic 20 something to fall for somebody like ivan despite the red flags,when they dont really know what love with a man actually looks like outside of transactions.

    One of my main critiques of the film was that i wish it couldve been longer than it already was, or split into 2 parts. a film with her type of character needs time to fully develop or else theres alot left to intepret. Thats just my 2 cents and how i see the movie tho

    "One of my main critiques of the film was that i wish it couldve been longer than it already was, or split into 2 parts. a film with her type of character needs time to fully develop or else theres alot left to intepret. Thats just my 2 cents and how i see the movie tho"

    The part I highlighted is ultimately what pulled me out of the film repeatedly, despite the technically excellent filmmaking on display.

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