Mar 3, 2020·1 replyJeansI just don’t see it. As far as a rapper I’ll give credit where credit is due but what leaps of faith or steps towards progression has he really taken to make the leap from top rapper to an artist
being the goat
Mar 3, 2020·1 reply
TubigOP right. Nas is a better rapper and artist than Jay
get outta here- Mar 3, 2020Rainbow Road get outta here
Mar 3, 2020·1 reply
Scott RaidenWhen they use the term "artist" in GOAT debates, it's usually about who makes the best bodies of work (Albums).
You can be a mid or bad rapper in terms of pure rapping skill but greater at making albums than a lot of highly skilled rappers.
You can be a pure emcee/traditional rapper (all you do is write lyrics) and still be a better artist than an artsy experimental rapper if you know how to put together better projects.
This. Maybe they should say “lyricist” instead of “rapper”? Being good at coming up with rhymes definitely doesn’t always translate into art that a bunch of people are going to f*** with but at the same time those rappers deserve to be acknowledged for the talent they do possess even if they’re not doing crazy numbers.
- Mar 3, 2020
let's not seperate it at all and acknowledge HOVA as one of the greatest to ever do it rapper or artist
- Mar 3, 2020·1 replymath fifty
being the goat
That’s stupid and makes the argument even worse. He’s the “goat” rapper not the “goat” artist
Mar 3, 2020·1 replyim an old head who actually listens to hip hop for the lyrics and can answer any hip hop question ama.
- Mar 3, 2020·1 replyTha Gawd You Know
im an old head who actually listens to hip hop for the lyrics and can answer any hip hop question ama.
jay is the greatest rapper dead or alive correct?
- Mar 3, 2020cotton dockers
This. Maybe they should say “lyricist” instead of “rapper”? Being good at coming up with rhymes definitely doesn’t always translate into art that a bunch of people are going to f*** with but at the same time those rappers deserve to be acknowledged for the talent they do possess even if they’re not doing crazy numbers.
I agree with this.
Hip Hop tends to use the terms "lyricist" and "rapper" kinda interchangeably but I'd be cool with making them distinct to where lyricist is all about rhyming/writing skill
- Mar 3, 2020Rainbow Road
jay is the greatest rapper dead or alive correct?
Very close 2nd. Nas the goat for me. "drunk by myself" is high art
Mar 3, 2020I've always hated this conversation, it always leads to downgrading and putting rappers in the wrong category just because they focus on lyrics.
Mar 3, 2020·1 replyrappers vs artist isn't the best term but it's essentially bars vs overall music quality, and that's a totally valid discussion to have
- Mar 3, 2020Jeans
That’s stupid and makes the argument even worse. He’s the “goat” rapper not the “goat” artist
both
Mar 3, 2020·1 replyOne is better at rapping.
The other can make a better song.Not that hard of a concept to grasp.
Mar 3, 2020Exactly, further proof that Kanye is #1 rapper
Mar 3, 2020JeansI just don’t see it. As far as a rapper I’ll give credit where credit is due but what leaps of faith or steps towards progression has he really taken to make the leap from top rapper to an artist
Artist can mean a lot of things, you probably thinkin artist like Kanye that expands and try all these other sounds and styles.
But someone like Jay who is well known for putting very coherent projects/songs out makes him an artist too. Like when you hear his albums it all fits in together and not just a bunch of random songs that are just him rapping his ass off
Like there’s something he’s tryna put out there, as an artist
- Mar 3, 2020
Future isnt an MC like that
Mar 3, 2020·2 repliesJay z is better rapper than Nas
- Tubig 🌊Mar 3, 2020POOM POOM DOOM
One is better at rapping.
The other can make a better song.Not that hard of a concept to grasp.
- Hi-C 🦌Mar 3, 2020·1 replySHAQUILLE
Hopsin is a better rapper than Travis Scott but Travis makes the better music
Literally just took a dump on dudes entire premise of his thread. You HATE to see it
- Hi-C 🦌Mar 3, 2020CantKnockTheHustle
Ya’ll just fans of pop if you believe in separating the term
Lol what is your basis. Literally just tryna stir s*** up off some dumb s***
Mar 3, 2020·1 replySeparating rappers and artists inhip hop debates is super corny
Mar 3, 2020it’s stupid because rapping is art
just like filmmaking is art. just like painting is art.
they’re all artists