Twigs (someone with no reason to lie) accuses Shia Lebouf (a nigga who admitted to being abusive) of being abusive

But yet youre still being dense

What reason did Amber Heard have to lie?

You, me and nobody else knows whether Shia is lying or whether twigs is lying. So just wait and see. Until then it's innocent until proven otherwise, right?

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Huh? That’s completely different because Johnny did admit to beating and physically abusing amber

Also doesn’t even connect to this situation because Shia never accused twigs of anything lol

Nah b this ain’t it. Nigga basically admitted guilt and have a history of abuse. Shorty got no reason to lie on him. Ain’t no clout coming from him. Y’all be wanting proof until you see proof and wanna move the goal post after that.

What she claimed and what he admitted to are both very different things.

You're acting like 'abuse' is just 1 single thing when in actual fact it's an EXTREMELY broad term

He admitted to alcoholism and causing abuse from that- that can (like I said earlier) range from him intentionally making people worry about him, to someone beating the s*** out of someone

Both are classed as abuse- but are very different things. One suggests someone is a piece of s***, then other suggests it's a 'cry for help'/mental health issues

this is intrinsically built to discredit abuse victims because 1, we all know how hard it is to "prove" that you were abused, especially if it happened a few years prior (basically impossible)

and 2, even if some level of guilt may be found (like a judge siding with Amber), you'll just side with Johnny and call her a liar anyway

Now I'm not saying Amber is right or not, but if youre saying "innocent until proven guilty" no matter what and then immediately citing someone as a liar who was just sided with in the court of law, it just seems like abuse victims are always going to have an insane uphill battle to prove themselves to you

Just like I told him to

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He said he was abusive to everyone around him for years

That’s way different than if he said he was abusive in one way in one instance or to one person

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I'm just saying let's wait and see. I learned the hard way from the Johnny Depp s***, so until then I'm all the way 'innocent until proven guilty'

He admitted to being abusive yeah, but twigs wasn't the only one that claimed it

Sia claimed he was too but her account was basically just him faking being interested in her to sleep with her (which plenty of others have done)

His original statement could easily have been addressed to her?

But...he himself has said it was true when they first came out

Well the evidence that came out proved amber was the abuser- so I'd say Depp was proven to be innocent and her guilty

For this case we have no evidence, just 2 statements that differed.

So the best thing to do is wait until we know more.... But instead of that many will continue to just paint him as guilty (which he may have been)- is that fair?

F*** off, Shia.

It doesn't matter. After the Aziz thing, you can't come out to accept responsibility for anything. Even when the story was that nuanced people still got on his ass.

No way Shia gets any wiggle room in a case like this.

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And here’s where the thread takes a turn lol

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