So you would prefer that they kill what little covid relief people are getting to virtue signal with a portion of the relief bill that makes it DOA based on the fact that people with votes that are required for it to pass have come out and publicly stated they will not vote for it with the minimum wage addition?
That’s not very progressive of you.
You’re a f***ing idiot
Manchin and especially sinema would never sink an actual relief bill over one element they say they dnt support
Many people like congressman khanna and aoc already disproved this stupid talking point
Progressives themselves criticized aspects of the bill but ofc no progressive would’ve been the one to sink it if it came to an actual vote
You’re inherently biased bcus u cant see that biden and the democrats constantly bow to their right most instincts because THEY WANT TO
Manchin has his little routine sinking 1.9 trillion of stimulus when UI is expiring isnt it. Dems CHOSE to not got forward on it
Dem CHOSE to not prove his theoretical “disapproval” and match it up with the practical
Dems CHOSE to use it as cover
What kills me about the minimum wage stuff is I’ve legit seen some well off people on Twitter saying that raising the minimum wage is bs because “those high school kids working minimum wage jobs don’t need it” like it’s really just high school kids that need to work minimum wage jobs, and there’s not a huge amount of people working minimum wage jobs to support their families
Privileged idiots who worry about others people money while being content with being underpaid themselves
Fools mad at other people instead of the system
I implore folks to not fall for the kabouki theatre
We’ve seen this playbook. They abdicate blame to their right most senators
The only person responsible for no minimum wage or public option or debt cancellation is JOE BIDEN
I mean... a lot of these wealthy people probably barely even do that tbh. We’re represented by people that couldn’t tell you what a loaf of bread costs.
The people I saw saying that s*** on Twitter weren’t wealthy tho. They were just upper middle class suburban maga people
You’re a f***ing idiot
Manchin and especially sinema would never sink an actual relief bill over one element they say they dnt support
Many people like congressman khanna and aoc already disproved this stupid talking point
Progressives themselves criticized aspects of the bill but ofc no progressive would’ve been the one to sink it if it came to an actual vote
You’re inherently biased bcus u cant see that biden and the democrats constantly bow to their right most instincts because THEY WANT TO
Manchin has his little routine sinking 1.9 trillion of stimulus when UI is expiring isnt it. Dems CHOSE to not got forward on it
Dem CHOSE to not prove his theoretical “disapproval” and match it up with the practical
Dems CHOSE to use it as cover
You’re a f***ing idiot if you think Manchin wouldnt. The guy doesn’t even want to be in office.
You’re a f***ing idiot if you think Manchin wouldnt. The guy doesn’t even want to be in office.
He’s on record saying multiple times that 1.9 is the figure
He never once alluded that he’d do anything remotely close to tanking the bill
All he said was that he’d prefer a $11 figure
This is head canon man
He’s on record saying multiple times that 1.9 is the figure
He never once alluded that he’d do anything remotely close to tanking the bill
All he said was that he’d prefer a $11 figure
This is head canon man
The figure is irrelevant. He point blank said that he will vote to defend the Byrd rule and side with the parliamentarian. He didn’t even leave an inch of room for interpretation of his stance.
His actual quote was: “My only vote is to protect the Byrd Rule: hell or high water“. So maybe you don’t interpret that as him alluding to tanking the bill, but I would have to say you’re wrong.
The figure is irrelevant. He point blank said that he will vote to defend the Byrd rule and side with the parliamentarian. He didn’t even leave an inch of room for interpretation of his stance.
His actual quote was: “My only vote is to protect the Byrd Rule: hell or high water“. So maybe you don’t interpret that as him alluding to tanking the bill, but I would have to say you’re wrong.
Wrong again ik you’d say this 2 posts ago
Kamala doesn’t need manchin votes to ignore the parliamentarian
The only avenue manchin and cinema would’ve had to voice any “discontent” would be to vote down the whole package something anyone with common sense can see they’d never do. Voting against a very popular and very needed stimulus plan in the new president of their party’s honeymoon period? Come on get real
But we’ll never no becuase for absolutely no reason(We know the reason) biden and kamala are caving on this
Wrong again ik you’d say this 2 posts ago
Kamala doesn’t need manchin votes to ignore the parliamentarian
https://twitter.com/pareene/status/1365112233362137090The only avenue manchin and cinema would’ve had to voice any “discontent” would be to vote down the whole package something anyone with common sense can see they’d never do. Voting against a very popular and very needed stimulus plan in the new president of their party’s honeymoon period? Come on get real
But we’ll never no becuase for absolutely no reason(We know the reason) biden and kamala are caving on this
What the f*** are you talking about? I didn’t say that they need Manchin’s vote to overturn the parliamentarian. He’s not going to support any legislation that goes against her decision.
Lmao at public information that was probably pointed out to you last week being your ace in the sleeve though
What the f*** are you talking about? I didn’t say that they need Manchin’s vote to overturn the parliamentarian. He’s not going to support any legislation that goes against her decision.
Lmao at public information that was probably pointed out to you last week being your ace in the sleeve though
Biggest dumbass in this sxn for sure
https://ritholtz.com/2019/01/minimum-wage-increases-do-not-destroy-jobs/
investopedia.com/articles/investing/080515/minimum-wages-can-raise-unemployment.asp
i can link articles to lol
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/080515/minimum-wages-can-raise-unemployment.asp
i can link articles to lol
It’s funny how the link you posted the author has nowhere near the quality history and credentials in economics as Ritholtz does
It’s funny how the link you posted the author has nowhere near the quality history and credentials in economics as Ritholtz does
i could link a bunch of articles lol. it goes both ways.
i could link a bunch of articles lol. it goes both ways.
If you keep linking articles from people who don’t have true experience with economics what’s the point
If you keep linking articles from people who don’t have true experience with economics what’s the point
its a logical fallacy (appeal to authority) to just link an article and say "haha proved you wrong"
its a logical fallacy (appeal to authority) to just link an article and say "haha proved you wrong"
so no one can be right if you both don't have concrete knowledge in this subject?
I know that all of this is really mostly internet arguments with no effect on real electoral politics, but I find it strange that certain people on the left think that if the minimum wage fails, the party that should be attacked for this is... democrats. Like if you really believe that the minimum wage is extremely popular, you should be shouting from the rooftops about how every single republican should be replaced with a democrat. Instead, people are falling for the republican game. Their entire f***ing strategy is to make sure nothing gets done, hoping that people will blame Biden for the consequences.
I know that all of this is really mostly internet arguments with no effect on real electoral politics, but I find it strange that certain people on the left think that if the minimum wage fails, the party that should be attacked for this is... democrats. Like if you really believe that the minimum wage is extremely popular, you should be shouting from the rooftops about how every single republican should be replaced with a democrat. Instead, people are falling for the republican game. Their entire f***ing strategy is to make sure nothing gets done, hoping that people will blame Biden for the consequences.
0 republicans vote for the stimmy in the house and internet leftists dont make a peep about it so they can continue their 'both parties are the same' idiocy
I know that all of this is really mostly internet arguments with no effect on real electoral politics, but I find it strange that certain people on the left think that if the minimum wage fails, the party that should be attacked for this is... democrats. Like if you really believe that the minimum wage is extremely popular, you should be shouting from the rooftops about how every single republican should be replaced with a democrat. Instead, people are falling for the republican game. Their entire f***ing strategy is to make sure nothing gets done, hoping that people will blame Biden for the consequences.
but everything's majority blue now though
0 republicans vote for the stimmy in the house and internet leftists dont make a peep about it so they can continue their 'both parties are the same' idiocy
Everyone with a brain knew the Republicans would do that. Now ask yourself why dem senators have come out against the 15$ min wage, why Kamala won't overrule the parliamentarian or why Schumer wont fire her, and why they spent more time fussing and fighting to try and get tanden confirmed than they are a min wage increase
Everyone with a brain knew the Republicans would do that. Now ask yourself why dem senators have come out against the 15$ min wage, why Kamala won't overrule the parliamentarian or why Schumer wont fire her, and why they spent more time fussing and fighting to try and get tanden confirmed than they are a min wage increase
Because Manchin has said he will sink the bill and will not vote for a bill that circumvents the Byrd rule. I legit have no clue why so many leftists choose to completely ignore the legislative process. How about this: if Bernie was president right now, do you think a $15 min wage would be getting passed, and if so, how would he do it?
Because Manchin has said he will sink the bill and will not vote for a bill that circumvents the Byrd rule. I legit have no clue why so many leftists choose to completely ignore the legislative process. How about this: if Bernie was president right now, do you think a $15 min wage would be getting passed, and if so, how would he do it?
Same circumstances like 50-50 Senate?
Same circumstances like 50-50 Senate?
Yeah same exact circumstances. Not sure who VP would be but you can pick someone, likely more open to overruling the parliamentarian.
So you would prefer that they kill what little covid relief people are getting to virtue signal with a portion of the relief bill that makes it DOA based on the fact that people with votes that are required for it to pass have come out and publicly stated they will not vote for it with the minimum wage addition?
That’s not very progressive of you.
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