The switch just gets flicked from the #1 priority being to maximize profit out of the least compensation for labor you can give, to making sure those same people are taken care of

1. its not possible without a revolution (you even admit this)

2. its unjust, selfish, and is anti freedoms

I'm talking about what becomes of luxury vehicles? High fashion? 5 star resorts, first class flights, michelin star restaurants?

I've done some research on what happens to luxury in a socialist society and I usually get the same answer.

The answer I usually get is something about luxury goods being the manifestation of capitalism and they aren't needed in a socialist world. That doesn't change the fact that me and billions of other people want them

Like how do we decide who lives in the 4000 sq ft 5 bedroom house and who lives in the 750 sq ft 1 bedroom apartment?

and living standards of billions would fall as well.

it rewards free riders and ignores the fact that people want better for themselves

I like the idea of socialism, but I have a hard time comprehending a lot of the theory, so it feels disingenuous to call myself one. I have definitely felt that there is something fundamentally wrong with capitalism for a long time now, tho.

thats an assertion you're making with zero evidence

besides the deadly transition. if we were say 100 years into socialism it would be a boring ass life.

I think that intrinsically I'm a socialist. I believe socialist tenets and the amount of theory that I've read (I gotta admit it's small compared to some in this sxn) leads me to believe so. But in the United States specifically, the left is nowhere near organized enough nor able to actually enact revolution.

That's why I currently see myself as a social democrat. I think the reform vs revolution dichotomy is inane, and you need both to increase class consciousness and transition (reformism) as well as to actually physically revoke bourgeoise lands and industries for the means of all (revolutionary).

Hes a legit troll

not really its common sense. also how can you say billions would rise then, you have 0 evidence...

fair enough

you're a greedy socialist pig but go off. keep trolling as you always do.

synopsis has literally called for violence to institute his political means...

A revolution is violent yes

why would you want a classless and stateless society?

bc the wealth of a society roughly correlates to the standard of living, our society has massive amounts of wealth but its highly concentrated on one end unfairly

that is to say the capitalists are exploiting workers and taking away the wealth they generate

my belief is that, if it was redistributed (in a way that makes logistical sense) effectively, standards of living would obviously go up

if your redistrubuting from the top wouldnt the people at tops SOL go down?

idk why no one else has a problem with this 😭😭

I'm busy being a landlord

to me there are a lot of things that confuse me about your post

but my biggest confusion is that you seem to have a really shallow view of human beings NGL

like dont you think we should strive to become more intelligent and creative, unlock the secrets of the universe and all that

rather than focusing on whether we live in a regular house or a mansion

to me if my core needs are all guaranteed and I can take a vacation once in a while, etc. I'm happy as long as I can focus on elevating our civilization

yeah but the average persons SOL would go up, so the average person should be a socialist right

you could also argue focusing on SOL rather than profit will create technologies and innovations that help society across the board

like imagine if we focused on curing cancer rather than making the iPad Pro Mini 12 or whatever

"I've done research"