BlackOlympian

2y

Question?

Does this also Overlap or Bring into play Libertarianism and Classic Liberalism?

Cause if so, I'm possibly in..

BlackOlympian

2y

Question?

Does this also Overlap or Bring into play Libertarianism and Classic Liberalism?

Cause if so, I'm possibly in..

Jody

2y

Liberalism imo capitalism with proper safety nets and regulations
Libertarianism aint it

BlackOlympian

2y

Safety nets as far as..?

Jody

2y

Enough to keep people off the streets
Im no policy maker but atleast ensuring people have the opportunity to make a healthy buck and still keep their attitude on self destruct

BlackOlympian

2y

Okay, no doubt. That’s one of the biggest reasons for government imo

As a Libertarian I just want less of it.

Jody

2y

Enough to keep people off the streets
Im no policy maker but atleast ensuring people have the opportunity to make a healthy buck and still keep their attitude on self destruct

BlackOlympian

2y

Question?

Does this also Overlap or Bring into play Libertarianism and Classic Liberalism?

Cause if so, I'm possibly in..

ARCADE GOON

2y

Social democracy was invented in Germany

Social democracy started as a current within socialism in Germany which had the first social democratic party of the world, then it became Marxist for many years, then in the period before World War 1 the gap between revolutionary social democrats represented by Karl Kautsky and reformist social democrats represented by Eduard Bernstein grew too strongly and social democracy became its own thing gradually, mostly because reformist social democrats were in favor of World War 1 while revolutionary social democrats opposed the world war

Lenin was part of the Social Democratic Party of Russia for example and advocated for emulating the German social democrats right until 1917

Most social democratic parties were explicitly socialist until the Cold War started, for example the German Social Democrats only removed anti-capitalist goals from their program in 1953

Crazy how socdems try to erase their own history

Scratchin Mamba

2y

This focus on "social safety nets" as a way to help workers to be able to take part in the market is more of a neoliberal view on social safety nets than a social democratic one, who view social programs as an end in itself.

In fact the term "social safety net" (which already implies the neoliberal view on social programs in its framing) was barely even used before the 90s. It was mostly used by the IMF in reference to social programs in the structural adjustment plans they imposed on Third World countries, which as we all know had very little to do with any form of social democracy

Jody

2y

“Everything I dont like is neoliberal”

TheRedKeeper

2y

America is too big to have a social state. It needs social states.

continuum

2y

I'm a social democrat but not in a left wing way

Scratchin Mamba

2y

True there are too many people per capita

TheRedKeeper

2y

My country has 10M people and a big state always worked just fine.

And now there is a wave of young people that think they can 'USA' our country. They are batshit crazy.

ARCADE GOON

2y

Then why do you hate Lula

continuum

2y

corrupt, leader of a criminal organization

TheRedKeeper

2y

America is too big to have a social state. It needs social states.

Scratchin Mamba

2y

Classical liberalism has nothing to do with libertarianism tho...

And definitely not with social democracy