wow, you mean to tell me the democrats are blaming socialism instead of looking inward? color me shocked you f***ing idiot
Enjoying living in your red state and wondering why things never change because you too scared to vote
Simmer down bud I wasn’t attacking your precious socialism just relaying my interpretation of election data.
The democratic leadership is under fire for not distancing itself from socialist attack ads.
Unless you got something meaningful to say piss off
bro on a real note, i’m genuinely asking, what are you referring to with that second sentence
bro on a real note, i’m genuinely asking, what are you referring to with that second sentence
wsj.com/articles/pelosi-faces-lawmakers-frustrated-over-loss-of-house-seats-11604621624
During an hourslong Democratic call on Thursday, lawmakers peppered leaders with questions and vented their frustrations over the week’s losses. Since Tuesday night, Democrats have been wrestling with why polling had been overly optimistic, and why the party’s brand wasn’t strong enough to withstand attacks labeling its candidates as socialists. On the call, Mrs. Pelosi didn’t immediately provide an answer, lawmakers said.
Can I ask you why?
Biden is as close to conservative in the Democratic Party as you can get. I don’t think he will enact any progressive policies
https://www.wsj.com/articles/pelosi-faces-lawmakers-frustrated-over-loss-of-house-seats-11604621624
During an hourslong Democratic call on Thursday, lawmakers peppered leaders with questions and vented their frustrations over the week’s losses. Since Tuesday night, Democrats have been wrestling with why polling had been overly optimistic, and why the party’s brand wasn’t strong enough to withstand attacks labeling its candidates as socialists. On the call, Mrs. Pelosi didn’t immediately provide an answer, lawmakers said.
so... what makes this information relevant in your opinion...
just cause Pelosi wasn't commenting on it? I don't want her to lol
Biden is as close to conservative in the Democratic Party as you can get. I don’t think he will enact any progressive policies
Do you agree that he will help more people than Trump?
i did
You subscribe to the belief that it is worth voting for the lesser of two evils?
Do you agree that he will help more people than Trump?
What is his plan to help people
You subscribe to the belief that it is worth voting for the lesser of two evils?
id rather biden be in office than tr mp
I don't think i have any illusions that this is progressive. I'm frustrated with his perspective on policing and hope that he will at least allow for some type of progression to sneak in to what he does with healthcare.
I do consider now to be when the real work starts, seeing what progressive s*** can get pushed through in a pretty center admin imo
but these aren't predictions or educated statements by any means
Do you agree that he will help more people than Trump?
thats so incredibly vague u gotta narrow down tbh
Do you agree that he will help more people than Trump?
i mean yeah if he gets covid under control then yes he will immediately when thats done.
What is his plan to help people
We can use one example of trans people in the US. This is a good example because Trans people pretty much have no voting power and need the help from other communities to protect their rights.
Joe Biden will reverse many of the discriminatory policies brought in by Trump against trans people. This includes, disallowing them from serving in the military, denying them basic rights to health care and even housing.
Do you agree that Biden will help marginalised groups of people such as this more than Trump?
id rather biden be in office than tr mp
I don't think i have any illusions that this is progressive. I'm frustrated with his perspective on policing and hope that he will at least allow for some type of progression to sneak in to what he does with healthcare.
I do consider now to be when the real work starts, seeing what progressive s*** can get pushed through in a pretty center admin imo
but these aren't predictions or educated statements by any means
Indeed, you roll the dice because one is standing on a platform of a more progressive society. Whether you believe it or not, the dice are worth being rolled in the face of Trump being elected.
I see no reason for people to take a principled approach to this when one candidate is offering help to marginalised communities whilst the other is doing the opposite and directly discriminating against them. Principles in the face of this serve only yourself, not other people. Anyone who leans to the left must do all they can to help the most vulnerable. That is the very foundation of our beliefs. Any political ideology comes after that foundation.
Even if you ignore all of this, it is hard to ignore the anti intellectual approach Trump has to politics and the complete disregard to anything but himself.
Indeed, you roll the dice because one is standing on a platform of a more progressive society. Whether you believe it or not, the dice are worth being rolled in the face of Trump being elected.
I see no reason for people to take a principled approach to this when one candidate is offering help to marginalised communities whilst the other is doing the opposite and directly discriminating against them. Principles in the face of this serve only yourself, not other people. Anyone who leans to the left must do all they can to help the most vulnerable. That is the very foundation of our beliefs. Any political ideology comes after that foundation.
Even if you ignore all of this, it is hard to ignore the anti intellectual approach Trump has to politics and the complete disregard to anything but himself.
yeah i considered it a vote to get trump out, not because i really like biden, and i don't know why people are upset with that, be upset with the state of things, not the people who actually tried to vote for some relief
We can use one example of trans people in the US. This is a good example because Trans people pretty much have no voting power and need the help from other communities to protect their rights.
Joe Biden will reverse many of the discriminatory policies brought in by Trump against trans people. This includes, disallowing them from serving in the military, denying them basic rights to health care and even housing.
Do you agree that Biden will help marginalised groups of people such as this more than Trump?
Both candidates are the same. Does Biden help all marginalized communities in your eyes?
Both candidates are the same. Does Biden help all marginalized communities in your eyes?
"both are the same" s*** again
i heavily disagree but I also don't think he helps all marginal communities in a vaccum but the outstanding circumstances of right now create the need to replace trump at all costs.
yeah i considered it a vote to get trump out, not because i really like biden, and i don't know why people are upset with that, be upset with the state of things, not the people who actually tried to vote for some relief
And I respect this a lot because I know it can be hard to vote for somebody you do not like. The left absolutely have to stop putting their own feelings and dedication to their political ideology over helping marginalised groups of people anyway they can. They do it to feel better about themselves for being principled. You cannot be principled whilst people rot under Trump. Biden is not great, but he will help more marginalised and vulnerable groups than Trump will. I have no doubt about this.
Both candidates are the same. Does Biden help all marginalized communities in your eyes?
No. Biden will not fix all problems with marginalised groups of people.
But he will bring some help and hope to many. He is not the same as Trump, and you do not actually believe that.
that "both are the same" s*** accounts for literally nothing trump did the last four years to sow division in our country
I hate when people say that s***. like two things can be net negative in ones opinion and still have differences between them.
It's a lazy f***ing thing to say, and I should know. I'm lazy.