Nessy

4mo

cuba will finally reach its full potential by going to a yearly meeting where 9 countries pretend they're cool with the way china drew its borders on the map

fiveprestos

4mo

"There is still a need to undergo a complete spiritual rebirth in one's attitude toward one's own work, freed from the direct pressure of the social environment, though linked to it by new habits. That will be communism. The change in consciousness does not take place automatically, just as change in the economy does not take place automatically. The alterations are slow and not rhythmic; there are periods of acceleration, periods that are slower, and even retrogressions." - Che

You and all other ultraleftists in this thread want Cuba to be poor and isolated and de-industrialized. Others want results.

fiveprestos

4mo

Based. Sever all relations with western marxists and integrate with BRICS immediately

Snowboy

4mo

why would you think abandoning socialism would help cubans? what are you doing in a communism thread?

Snowboy

4mo

why would you think abandoning socialism would help cubans? what are you doing in a communism thread?

fiveprestos

4mo

Oh I forgot this is the snowboy club no one other than PSLtards are allowed in. My bad!

fiveprestos

4mo

What about embracing industrial policy, mechanization, and economic development is abandoning socialism?

Snowboy

4mo

the CPC is encouraging them to embrace more market "innovations", since they have no other real advice to give

fiveprestos

4mo

Why is that not sound advice. Modern-day Cuba embraces western Pan Leftism. The CPC is the leader of the multipolar hegemon

And why the quotations around innovation

Snowboy

4mo

youre not bright and this thread isn't for you. go make a "multipolarity nerd" thread.

fiveprestos

4mo

Snowboy with the ad hominem as always. Liberalism is a cancer. All countries should exist as perennial victims.

Snowboy

4mo

what are you talking about, I dont know who you are or why you think I'm a "psltard" or what you think you're doing promoting market reforms in a communism thread. you seem like an extremely confused person and we already had a weird meltdown in here yesterday, let's not again.

fiveprestos

4mo

@999Wrld since you deleted your post -

We're in a communism thread, have a nuanced take for once. Yes, it's an island country completely blockaded from the global economy, but the Cuban people deserve better than making excuses for bad government decisions.

The DPRK is far more sanctioned than Cuba and it leads the world in military technical advancements. Also isn't infiltrated with American NGOs, lol https://www.fordfoundation.org/news-and-stories/stories/cubas-next-generation-of-progress/

This isn't about "some innate failure of the Cuban dictatorship of the proletariat", this is about it not yet aligning closer with Russia and China.

afterimage

4mo

I thought you had me blocked from the last time you ranted about psl

Yeah, Cuba is 10x closer to the US than DPRK

Proximity wise and practicality it is much harder for Cuba to evade sanctions. This is common sense

And most of NK sanctions have been towards it nuclear program while Cuba’s are far more worse spread

It hasn’t “aligned” closer with Russia and China because it isn’t the f***ing 1960s anymore and the conditions are not the same as the USSR or Mao’s PRC nor is it even getting into the complications each country had trying to maintain its sovereignty admist the Sino-Soviet split

fiveprestos

4mo

"There is still a need to undergo a complete spiritual rebirth in one's attitude toward one's own work, freed from the direct pressure of the social environment, though linked to it by new habits. That will be communism. The change in consciousness does not take place automatically, just as change in the economy does not take place automatically. The alterations are slow and not rhythmic; there are periods of acceleration, periods that are slower, and even retrogressions." - Che

You and all other ultraleftists in this thread want Cuba to be poor and isolated and de-industrialized. Others want results.

afterimage

4mo

I thought you had me blocked from the last time you ranted about psl

Yeah, Cuba is 10x closer to the US than DPRK

Proximity wise and practicality it is much harder for Cuba to evade sanctions. This is common sense

And most of NK sanctions have been towards it nuclear program while Cuba’s are far more worse spread

It hasn’t “aligned” closer with Russia and China because it isn’t the f***ing 1960s anymore and the conditions are not the same as the USSR or Mao’s PRC nor is it even getting into the complications each country had trying to maintain its sovereignty admist the Sino-Soviet split

afterimage

4mo

I thought you had me blocked from the last time you ranted about psl

Yeah, Cuba is 10x closer to the US than DPRK

Proximity wise and practicality it is much harder for Cuba to evade sanctions. This is common sense

And most of NK sanctions have been towards it nuclear program while Cuba’s are far more worse spread

It hasn’t “aligned” closer with Russia and China because it isn’t the f***ing 1960s anymore and the conditions are not the same as the USSR or Mao’s PRC nor is it even getting into the complications each country had trying to maintain its sovereignty admist the Sino-Soviet split

fiveprestos

4mo

The DPRK shares a border with a U.S.-backed state that hosts American military bases.

Cuba maintains trade relations with the U.S, DPRK does not.