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  • Nov 27, 2024
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    teku izing
    https://twitter.com/logo_daedalus/status/1861619021227172315

    yeah man nobody talks about the 2008 crash or anything lol

  • Nov 27, 2024
    Choking

    yeah man nobody talks about the 2008 crash or anything lol

    new liberal conspiracy theory just dropped to explain Kamala losing

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    teku izing
    https://twitter.com/logo_daedalus/status/1861619021227172315

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    PFLP optimisticman

    Entertainment can co op revolutionary sentiments but that's ultimately all it does. It co opts it. Like for example the movie about Fred Hampton. Which mostly left out his advocation for socialism and reduced him to a vague radical aesthetic. This stuff is not a sign of improvements in the movement it's just a sign of a more pacified population

    you are stupid as f*** no offense

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    Choking

    the thing is the party doesn’t exist lol

    Lots of parties exist. You can join psl or whatever one corresponds to your particular leanings. Now your just venturing into defeatism

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    Choking

    Lenin also was an amazing political opportunist, who doesn’t love taking advantage of opportunities

    Oppurtunism refers to someone who ultimately just wants to benefit themselves

  • Nov 27, 2024
    teku izing
    https://twitter.com/logo_daedalus/status/1861619021227172315

    marvels avengers comes out in 2012

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    PFLP optimisticman

    Oppurtunism refers to someone who ultimately just wants to benefit themselves

    another meaning for it is taking advantages of political opportunities and contradiction like the german train or a split between the ruling class

    Hasan also seems to piss off every other streamer and regardless of political views that should be supported, and he has a big sympathetic audience and that should be taken advantage of by any “leftist” org regardless of what his views actually are

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    PFLP optimisticman

    Lots of parties exist. You can join psl or whatever one corresponds to your particular leanings. Now your just venturing into defeatism

    not american even then canadian equivalents like the communist party of canada is useless and full of s***pests won’t be surprised if it’s not different in america lmao equivalents

    ur better using ur free time organizing for tenet, or immigrant movements

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    Choking

    another meaning for it is taking advantages of political opportunities and contradiction like the german train or a split between the ruling class

    Hasan also seems to piss off every other streamer and regardless of political views that should be supported, and he has a big sympathetic audience and that should be taken advantage of by any “leftist” org regardless of what his views actually are

    I think there is a serious split in a***ysis here. You can like whatever entertainment you want. But don't stifle real movements or obscure where actual work can be done

  • Nov 27, 2024
    Plight2

    you are stupid as f*** no offense

    unnecessary and rude

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    Choking

    not american even then canadian equivalents like the communist party of canada is useless and full of s***pests won’t be surprised if it’s not different in america lmao equivalents

    ur better using ur free time organizing for tenet, or immigrant movements

    Saying you shouldn't join a party cause by your view their all useless is defeatism yes. How can revolution happen if you ultimately see it is something that is perpetually pointless? Who will start it? I joined the aaprp cause they correspond to my beliefs. I'm sure their is a single decent enough party in Canada

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    Choking

    another meaning for it is taking advantages of political opportunities and contradiction like the german train or a split between the ruling class

    Hasan also seems to piss off every other streamer and regardless of political views that should be supported, and he has a big sympathetic audience and that should be taken advantage of by any “leftist” org regardless of what his views actually are

    he's a moron. you may enjoy watching him but make no mistake he's an idiot and an anticommunist and people shouldn't be forced to care about such a useless marginal figure.

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    PFLP optimisticman

    Lots of parties exist. You can join psl or whatever one corresponds to your particular leanings. Now your just venturing into defeatism

    as someone who was a central committee member of a pretty large party I wouldn't join any of these american communist parties, nor would I encourage people to do so

  • Bro should read combat liberalism

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    Snowboy

    as someone who was a central committee member of a pretty large party I wouldn't join any of these american communist parties, nor would I encourage people to do so

    I wouldn't discourage someone from actually doing something. What exactly is the alternative?

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    PFLP optimisticman

    I think there is a serious split in a***ysis here. You can like whatever entertainment you want. But don't stifle real movements or obscure where actual work can be done

    Any real movement would use Hasan as a political tool no one is talking about building a line or political movement around Hasan. A serious organization should realize the role Hasan plays in a media ecosystem dominated by capitalists, and should use it to their advantage like going on his show for fundraising. He exists, and we should use his to best of our advantage being sectarian over genuinely just seems useless.

    @Snowboy

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    I don't think you guys took to heart the meaning of struggle in class struggle

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    PFLP optimisticman

    I wouldn't discourage someone from actually doing something. What exactly is the alternative?

    everybody "actually does things", thats exactly the productivist mindset that should be combatted. the point is what are the "things" most of these parties do? pointless charity work, sheepdogging the DNC via their cronies in the yellow unions, rote protests with a million co-signing organizations, etc. Lenin was a outlaw, Stalin was a bank robber, Trotsky was a military general. the "things" most American communists do in comparison is a joke.

    if you wanna "just do things" you can always just join the DSA, they will put you to work doing all of the above all at once but at least you can parlay it into a career as a union bueracrat or flop local politician or "independent journalist"; communist parties will just expect you to do all the same s*** for free with zero chance of any mobility.

    of course the actual alternative is people's war and revolution but this requires a party dedicated to upholding a revolutionary line at all times that is integrated into the masses. this doesn't exist yet but their are ways to build it.

  • Nov 27, 2024
    PFLP optimisticman

    Saying you shouldn't join a party cause by your view their all useless is defeatism yes. How can revolution happen if you ultimately see it is something that is perpetually pointless? Who will start it? I joined the aaprp cause they correspond to my beliefs. I'm sure their is a single decent enough party in Canada

    in any western country with our current conditions yeah, better try to make strong links with immigrant communities to create a political base receptacle to our politics when the mainstream “left” and right are abandoning them than try to make an over glorified communist book club

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    Snowboy

    everybody "actually does things", thats exactly the productivist mindset that should be combatted. the point is what are the "things" most of these parties do? pointless charity work, sheepdogging the DNC via their cronies in the yellow unions, rote protests with a million co-signing organizations, etc. Lenin was a outlaw, Stalin was a bank robber, Trotsky was a military general. the "things" most American communists do in comparison is a joke.

    if you wanna "just do things" you can always just join the DSA, they will put you to work doing all of the above all at once but at least you can parlay it into a career as a union bueracrat or flop local politician or "independent journalist"; communist parties will just expect you to do all the same s*** for free with zero chance of any mobility.

    of course the actual alternative is people's war and revolution but this requires a party dedicated to upholding a revolutionary line at all times that is integrated into the masses. this doesn't exist yet but their are ways to build it.

    Join the All-African People's Revolutionary Party. They're not revisionist and connect with real comrades in Africa

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    PFLP optimisticman

    Join the All-African People's Revolutionary Party. They're not revisionist and connect with real comrades in Africa

    I'm not black so I couldn't even if I wanted to. I have my own valuable past experiences in an African-led communist revisionist organization tho (ty Uhuru and Chairman Omali for the life lessons).

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    PFLP optimisticman

    I don't think you guys took to heart the meaning of struggle in class struggle

    u sound like a baby who just learned a new terminology and can’t stop abusing it

  • Nov 27, 2024
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    PFLP optimisticman

    Entertainment can co op revolutionary sentiments but that's ultimately all it does. It co opts it. Like for example the movie about Fred Hampton. Which mostly left out his advocation for socialism and reduced him to a vague radical aesthetic. This stuff is not a sign of improvements in the movement it's just a sign of a more pacified population

    Not completely the same but I'm watching arcane and they are absolutely going to bungle this whole idea of revolution and classism they are hinting at