I wouldn't rec Land at all in terms of reading reactionary stuff. There's far better things out there from that sphere which is less cracked out

I haven't read D&G but right wingers routinely get inspired or steal ideas from leftists (even Marx or Lenin) it's actually pretty common

"I am a maoist" - Emmanuel Macron

I’ve mostly stopped reading theory 🫣🫣🫣🫣

Mostly cuz I be in the field but I will admit I am lacking

what’s ur thoughts on accelerationism i was gonna do a dive into accelerationism and then reading a bit of it im like this is just for some intellectual to sound smart and be doomer about, and as well to justify doing nothing

There's not much in terms of new philosophical or sociological development tbh.

The CCP is a well-oiled machine and is very ideologically rigid.

Most of the intellectual labor is directed towards more practical development like industry, finance, and tech.

Xi has mobilized cultural efforts to reclaim and reincorporate past aesthetic characteristics of Chinese identity into the broader Chinese communist framework. Something he is calling a "cultural revival".

The trend under Xi represents a fundamental shift from foreign imports such as Communism and LIMITED Westernisation to a greater reliance on political thoughts and practices rooted in China's own traditions. ( this is nationalism in disguise, not something particularly new yet )

the CCP is not particularly friendly towards ideological dissidence

extreme (or experimental or exciting) forms of intellectual contribution aren't coming from China right now if that's what you're looking for

you right but seeing it an actual play is different I guess like IDF and Buzzfeed using their ideas in a practical sense

And socialists wont tell you this but Hitler was actually a socialist (Nazi=National Socialist)

Same here I'm mostly a history nerd

I mean yeah, I would never recommend him either lol but I do think it’s important to have a decent idea of his though given it’s influence on the neo-reactionary movement, which has some followers in Silicon Valley and i think is more of a threat than people realize

If you read the Neoreactionary Manifesto or whatever its called it’s easy to see how people get into that s***. When he’s trying, he knows how write and pull people who may be someone inclined to reactionary thought all the way in

You’re right there’s much more coherent s*** out there but it was a fun intellectual detour for me mostly

Same for mussolini cause more government = more leftism

tbf mussolini was actually a socialist for like 5 minutes

Yea he had that anakin in episode III moment

I think Land is the least convincing of reactionaries. The thing is that 95% of the online doesn't actually read Land besides like 10 dudes who just disseminate memes and quotes. He's more of a meme to them distilled through several layers of socialization. It's the same relationship Vaush or Contrapoint watchers have w/ Marx lol

Think they ask some of the right questions without really providing much of any value in response

They can never really define what their ideology actually is, and it’s mainly a bunch of navel gazing musings with occasionally interesting insights. Check out the XenoGothic blog and you’ll see what I mean xenogothic.com/2019/03/04/a-u-acc-primer

The /Acc Reader that came out a few years ago actually has some interesting stuff it it tho and if you want a broad overview of the various lines of thought that different accs take I’d recommend checking that out

Again, I do think they bring things up that need to be grappled with but they never really provide much of anything valuable on how to account for those things

have u checked out governance of china might be the best available source if ur trying to learn bout post Deng china

That's interesting. I get the impression that under Xi the CPC has been increasing nationalist as well as communist/marxist rethoric. Not to say Chinese society is more politicized but the party itself is trying to develop a more coherent ideology?

I'm planning on reading that but isn't that just Xi's theory? I'm talking about historical works, like the early chapters of Li Minqi's book where he goes into the power struggle between Xi and other factions of the CPC.

I havent read it, I heard its a collection of his speeches, though I did pickup a lot of historical aspects from going through Mao Selected works in the background of the text, might be the same for Xi book where he'll discuss a theory but this theory should be born out of some event that happened with the CCP.

Exactly.

Marxism is a very young ideology and the CCP has known this.

Their best bet has always been to follow Western models to an extent
(China’s economic model is based on notions of liberal industrialization and finance)

This has led to an identity crisis ( Xi’s revival of the old Chinese aesthetic, socialism with Chinese characteristics)

The political model for non-western nations still seems to be pick-and-choose from the Western canon.

this a symptom of global cultural decline (ideological poverty) IMO